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bunchanumbers on 08 March 2016
zorg1000 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Last quarter would be FY2015 Q3 right?

Sony http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/15q3_sony.pdf
Revenue: ¥587.1B
Operating Income: ¥40.2B

Nintendo http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-reports-q3-fy15-financial-results/
Revenue: ¥271.521B
Operating Income: ¥31.4B

How were they more profitable?

So they had 3/4 the operating income with less than 1/2 the revenue?

pretty much shows that Nintendo has a better business model and would most likely be closer to being self sustaining in a bad market. Considering the market is already tough for them and they're still showing profits. A single dip for Sony would be big trouble.



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Bryank75 on 08 March 2016

I don't know guys, I can't see Sony not having a PS5 with the hardware selling like it is now for them!
I also think as long as COD and Fifa are on a console, a lot of people will buy the one that offers them with the best entry point (performance / price).

Also remember not everywhere will have broadband speeds adequate for streaming.



Bryank75 on 08 March 2016
Ka-pi96 said:
Bryank75 said:
I don't know guys, I can't see Sony not having a PS5 with the hardware selling like it is now for them!
I also think as long as COD and Fifa are on a console, a lot of people will buy the one that offers them with the best entry point (performance / price).

Also remember not everywhere will have broadband speeds adequate for streaming.

It's not just speeds either, some countries still have datacaps on broadband too.

I also have friends who would like to play offline, so they would purposely disconnect their PS3 / 4 from the internet. Later I learned that it was in an effort to hide how many trophies they were earning over a period of time. 

I luckily have access to the "appear offline" feature.



KingofTrolls on 08 March 2016

Did somebody really paid him/her for that arsetalks?
Ok i will copycat

USA will fall in 2020.
Oil prices 350$ 2019.
Call of Duty will sell less than 1M FY worldwide in 2022.



Bryank75 on 08 March 2016

enough of bullshit.    No more replies from now on.



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Snoopy on 08 March 2016
Bryank75 said:

enough of bullshit.    No more replies from now on.

Make me.



Bryank75 on 08 March 2016
Snoopy said:
Bryank75 said:

enough of bullshit.    No more replies from now on.

Make me.

Sorry. Someone got into my account! 



bunchanumbers on 08 March 2016
BraLoD said:
Shadow1980 said:

Actually, if you take Nintendo out of the equation the console market is doing just fine. Combined PS4 & XBO sales in the U.S. are 46% higher than launch-aligned PS3 & 360 sales in the same time span, and are only about 2% lower than what combined launch-aligned PS2 & Xbox sales were at this point in their lives. The Wii U is the sole reason why the current generation looks bad compared to prior generations.

Yet the claim from that quote tree is that Nintendo is the surviving self sustainable one in the future...

They are. Not just through recent history, but look at their entire history. They have been around for 130 years. A company isn't around that long without being good at business.

Also I doubt that we're going to see 160m units from Xbox and PlayStation.



JWeinCom on 08 March 2016

Well yeah... according to the second law of thermodynamics, it is indeed inevitable that consoles will die.



bunchanumbers on 08 March 2016
BraLoD said:
bunchanumbers said:

They are. Not just through recent history, but look at their entire history. They have been around for 130 years. A company isn't around that long without being good at business.

Also I doubt that we're going to see 160m units from Xbox and PlayStation.

They are not, Nintendo is constantly dropping in all kinds of good aspects as sales numbers, profit, and brand power.
Nintendo depends as much of third party support as any of the others console makers. They lose support, they lose power.

Nintendo is not self sustainable, just wait to see if the NX fails again how self sustainable they are, as if the Wii U is not already more than enough proof they are not and they need support in this bussiness just like everyone else does.

And what does that "doubt 160M XBOX and PS" is supposed to support here? When did a Nintendo home console did that much? Wii U won't be reching 20M or maybe not even 15M sales with lack of third party support, Nintendo desperatedly need support.

160m units is what Xbox and PlayStation sold last gen. Like I said I don't see them selling that many units. There will be contracting this generation.

The funny thing is that it doesn't really matter how many consoles Nintendo sells. They still are profitable. It doesn't matter what Wii U reaches, they're still making money. As for NX failing, they specifically restructured themselves in case they do have to stand alone. They consolidated their handheld and console teams. They made NX so that games can work on the handheld and console with little effort. They are maximizing their software output to avoid droughts.

Nintendo could quite easily be the only one making games on NX and be fine. Sony and MS would have both folded under the circumstances Nintendo deals with on a daily basis.