Its not about need. Phones don't need apps....... It all depends if the rumours are true anyway.

You just said they need two things. Now they don't? Make up your mind. Either the incimental upgrades are important. Or they're not. Phones did need apps. Because people have always wanted a portible computer, since day 1. We have them now. They work fine. Everything else that gets added, becomes fluff. Like 3D Touch. The cool new feature of peeking ar your emails. That totally couldn't of been done, with an exsisting swipe gesture built into the app. You gotta buy that new phone, for this amazing new feature. Instead of doing reseach on making longer batteries.

Sorry. I meant consoles dont need to do anything other than games. Same as phones don't need to do anything orher than call. But tech changes perception. I actually expect eventually Smart TVs will just play games straight from services like Xbox live or PSnow. Buts before the worlds internet is ready for that on mass scale, I think upgradeable consoles are the next step. new models every 3 years. Like PS4 s. Or the like. I think that's what MS is hinting at.

There are lots of things today that would seem like "magic" 15 years ago. 

If you told someone in the year 1999/2000 that you'd be able to carry around a device the size of half a deck of cards that can store thousands of CDs worth of music on it in 1s and 0s a lot of people wouldn't believe it, and that's just a iPod, which is laughably outdated compared to an iPhone. 

Or you could just watch thousands of movies ala carte at home instantly with the click of a button rather than having to go to Blockbuster Video to rent them like everyone did in the past. 

There will be plenty of things your kids laugh at, game consoles is likely one of them. 

In the future I imagine likely all your movies/games/music etc. will be streamed to whatever device you feel like playing on, physical media and dedicated consoles will go the way of the dodo and dinosaur. 

That and in 10-15 years even pocket smartphone devices will be able to generate incredibly high end visuals, rendering a giant sized console moot. 

Yeah but Nintendo are achieving that with a mobile architecture so as to be mobile. Hence the hybrid. Your getting 2 devices in 1 like the Surface Pro. If they were to build a console and not a hybrid they could achieve more power than the current PS4/Xbox One easily. I'm simply showing how 2 years on even with Mobile tech Nintendo can achieve the same level of power as under TVs consoles.

I think Quantum Break is one of the best visuals Ive ever seen. But with more power like 12 gb ddr4 ram, 2x generational GPU it would be able to have better textures etc etc like a top end PC

Everything I said was dead on about you. That attach ratio nonsense is enough proof you actually believe Sonys first party power isnt laughable at best. Sony's first party might has never saved any of Sonys plats that needed them. PS3 was constantly getting outsold by Wii without 3rd party support. Where was Sonys first party power then? PSP and Vita also needed Sony and they were no where to be found. The point is you are clearly sticking to shitting on WiiU for obvious reasons. GB, GBA, Wii, DS, and 3DS prove Nintys power is strong enough to sustain themselves. You cant even name a single example of Sony saving their own plats. So no you are wrong, Ninty is self sustainable according to the dozens of examples of success on their own. 

Attach ratios increasing mean nothing if the SALES wouldnt. The hardware would sell WiiU levels and software even worse if Sony was in this position, see Vita. You would think Sony would be making bank on first party software for Vita. You have nothing backing up Sony's first party games would sell more without 3rd party support, Vita and PSP prove as much lol.

The PS4 is already behind the tech industry but is selling gangbusters? PS4 is very old tech yet they bringing VR to consoles? So, does power matter?

As for wealth of connecting means, you haven't said what that means.

As for handheld device, we people don't want to carry more than their phone.

It truly is funny seeing people like you and spemanpig take different types of media and apply them to video games. The fact of the matter is video games are nothing like the other types of media out there. Music and books take very little space and havent taken much more space compared to their past counterparts. Does Michael Jacksons Thiller take much more space than Adeles 25? No, now can you say the same about Super Mario Bros. all the way up to NSMBU? The medias arent at all comparable, thats why all digital works for music and books. Music and books in the next century probably will take no more space than they do now.

Movies is also another monster media that is nothing like video games. The reason streaming a movie works vs. video games is simple really. Lag has no effect on a movie, you can simply rewind and watch a segment back over. Video games now have tons of online lag issues, now you want my single player games to face the sames lag issues? No thanks.

Yes, they would since the first MP3 player was released in 1998.

And Internet already existed in the year 2000 as did video streaming, so yeah, they would have believed that.

One more thing that you got wrong - dedicated consoles have not existed since the PS2 days. People have been using consoles to watch movies and listen to music since the PS3/X360 generation. Whether the form factor changes or not, there will no one device to replace everything just like there is no one service to replace everything. 

What...I replied to exactly what you said. But humor me, what did I say that has no reason to be there? The first part refering to Sony was in reply to you saying Sony's attach ratios would increase if Sony had no 3rd party support. I simply said that means nothing if the games are still selling terribly bad like Sonys games do on Vita and still failing to move hardware. The part about Ninty is refering to you constantly pinpointing WiiU lol. WiiU has proven it needs 3rd party support. Not GB, GBA, DS, Wii, or 3DS. Yet you only want to pinpoint WiiU? I wonder why.