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I'm willing to donate up to x_ per month

1$ 8 5.67%
 
2$ 3 2.13%
 
3$ 3 2.13%
 
5$+ 5 3.55%
 
10$+ 1 0.71%
 
20$+ (I have money to burn ok) 1 0.71%
 
Keep the ads, I pay nothing 85 60.28%
 
I particularily like the porn ads 35 24.82%
 
Total:141
DivinePaladin on 05 March 2016
aLkaLiNE said:
DivinePaladin said:
I'd rather they get fairly solid ad revenue from my viewing since the revenue from ads overall would far outpace the income from user donation in all likelihood. I just want ads that aren't either porn or force open/are generally insanely intrusive on mobile. It's not much to ask to hope a website doesn't act straight out of the late 90s in 2016, especially one that is considered to have quality data that almost no other site has in any capacity.

I almost wish VGC had a true competitor because maybe then somebody with pull would stop and think that maybe there should be a conversation had about these disgusting advertisements.

Server cost has to be <$2000 a month. I'm sure someone more qualified can speak on this, but one of the forums I used to frequent, which had nearly 100,000 users called Scorehero had a period crowd fund and iirc the server cost was substantially less than that and would last a few months at a time. Compare that with the penny per ad that VgChartz gets per click/force open. I imagine the numbers could be close.

 

its also not as simple as just 'removing' the ads. If ioi didn't rely on this revenue, I don't think he would enforce the marketing we see today.

I didn't say anything about "removing" ads. There's a very simple way to take a site with as steady and solid a traffic volume as VGC to put a foot down on intrusive spam-level advertisements and it's called putting a foot down. If we had a quality website here I'd be fine with donating but we have a fairly basic site with a fairly basically executed tracking system (whose defining quality is the fact that it's based on exclusive metrics that nobody else can figure out), and getting ads that pop up and force me into another window LITERALLY as I'm typing this very message for a site as average as this is ridiculous. This is a top 15000 in the world website, which according to my quick searches is valued at around $200 per day in ad revenue. I don't see a website that looks like its worth its value when I see these ads. If I did I'd be inclined to donate but I only donate to things who are fighting to earn my donation. A site that often falls behind on its main goal, with horrible advertisements, an owner who seemingly doesn't care about his community and a good forum community is not a site I plan on donating to currently. And I don't even care about the charts, for reference. I just like some of the people here. I've run forums before, it's not that hard to keep it up to a basic quality. 

 

Sorry, went on a bit of a digression. The point is, there's a way to advertise correctly. VGC doesn't do it, and they're probably losing out on money because of the adblockers who are tired of the ads just within this dedicated community. If a solid chunk people who like it here are willing to adblock, there's a problem. 



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aLkaLiNE on 05 March 2016
DivinePaladin said:
aLkaLiNE said:

Server cost has to be <$2000 a month. I'm sure someone more qualified can speak on this, but one of the forums I used to frequent, which had nearly 100,000 users called Scorehero had a period crowd fund and iirc the server cost was substantially less than that and would last a few months at a time. Compare that with the penny per ad that VgChartz gets per click/force open. I imagine the numbers could be close.

 

its also not as simple as just 'removing' the ads. If ioi didn't rely on this revenue, I don't think he would enforce the marketing we see today.

I didn't say anything about "removing" ads. There's a very simple way to take a site with as steady and solid a traffic volume as VGC to put a foot down on intrusive spam-level advertisements and it's called putting a foot down. If we had a quality website here I'd be fine with donating but we have a fairly basic site with a fairly basically executed tracking system (whose defining quality is the fact that it's based on exclusive metrics that nobody else can figure out), and getting ads that pop up and force me into another window LITERALLY as I'm typing this very message for a site as average as this is ridiculous. This is a top 15000 in the world website, which according to my quick searches is valued at around $200 per day in ad revenue. I don't see a website that looks like its worth its value when I see these ads. If I did I'd be inclined to donate but I only donate to things who are fighting to earn my donation. A site that often falls behind on its main goal, with horrible advertisements, an owner who seemingly doesn't care about his community and a good forum community is not a site I plan on donating to currently. And I don't even care about the charts, for reference. I just like some of the people here. I've run forums before, it's not that hard to keep it up to a basic quality. 

 

Sorry, went on a bit of a digression. The point is, there's a way to advertise correctly. VGC doesn't do it, and they're probably losing out on money because of the adblockers who are tired of the ads just within this dedicated community. If a solid chunk people who like it here are willing to adblock, there's a problem. 

The 'removing ads' portion of my comment was a response to the comment directly below yours. I'm using my phone as we speak, and multi quoting is a pain in the ass.

 

Aditionally, the only way this site is getting that kind of ad revenue daily is through the force clicks. In which case I highly doubt we would be able to work around, barring ad block which again I believe is a program meant for pc and thus not an option for many.



DivinePaladin on 05 March 2016
aLkaLiNE said:
DivinePaladin said:

I didn't say anything about "removing" ads. There's a very simple way to take a site with as steady and solid a traffic volume as VGC to put a foot down on intrusive spam-level advertisements and it's called putting a foot down. If we had a quality website here I'd be fine with donating but we have a fairly basic site with a fairly basically executed tracking system (whose defining quality is the fact that it's based on exclusive metrics that nobody else can figure out), and getting ads that pop up and force me into another window LITERALLY as I'm typing this very message for a site as average as this is ridiculous. This is a top 15000 in the world website, which according to my quick searches is valued at around $200 per day in ad revenue. I don't see a website that looks like its worth its value when I see these ads. If I did I'd be inclined to donate but I only donate to things who are fighting to earn my donation. A site that often falls behind on its main goal, with horrible advertisements, an owner who seemingly doesn't care about his community and a good forum community is not a site I plan on donating to currently. And I don't even care about the charts, for reference. I just like some of the people here. I've run forums before, it's not that hard to keep it up to a basic quality. 

 

Sorry, went on a bit of a digression. The point is, there's a way to advertise correctly. VGC doesn't do it, and they're probably losing out on money because of the adblockers who are tired of the ads just within this dedicated community. If a solid chunk people who like it here are willing to adblock, there's a problem. 

The 'removing ads' portion of my comment was a response to the comment directly below yours. I'm using my phone as we speak, and multi quoting is a pain in the ass.

 

Aditionally, the only way this site is getting that kind of ad revenue daily is through the force clicks. In which case I highly doubt we would be able to work around, barring ad block which again I believe is a program meant for pc and thus not an option for many.

I'll reiterate that a quality site goes a long way here, specifically in this instance in making back any revenue lost in any changeover from force clicks. I'd be willing to donate to a site that actually felt like a website from this decade, with the donations going to site and chart upkeep. From my while lurking I believe the only significant changes we've had in the last two years was a new logo (woo) and multiquoting as a button just last month. As somebody who has to work with websites fairly often for my major, multiquoting is something that should be like a day three addition. 

 

A website shouldn't need to force its income by burdening its userbase. It should be done gracefully or through donation. If that's not manageable then a site should look into its viability as a real commercial product. 

 

As an aside, doesn't VGC offer an insanely expensive pro membership that costs literally $10000 or more? There's absolutely no way there should be overhead as high as it seems to be with a site this basic, especially since to my knowledge a good amount of companies use VGC pro. There's absolutely no reason for forced ads in this case. 



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ironmanDX on 05 March 2016
spemanig said:
I'd contribute money if I started seeing tangible strides of improvement in any part of the site that isn't the phenomenal writing team. I use adblock. I don't care about the ads. I care about the site growing into something that's not laughed at by Neogaf and scoffed at by IGN.

A much more worthy cause.



Ultrashroomz on 05 March 2016

Nope.



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deskpro2k3 on 05 March 2016

save your freakin money...

Don't like ads;
use this. https://www.ublock.org/
or this. https://adblockplus.org/

I prefer ublock by the way. this is my contribution to you folks that don't like ads. And it's free.



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CWegzz on 05 March 2016

Why would someone pay to keep ads of when they can easily just download adblock? Although, I guess it might be useful for mobile version, even though I would still prefer to deal with ads than to pay to remove them



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ArchangelMadzz on 05 March 2016

Having ads isn't the problem, it's the intrusive nature of the ads that's the problem.



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Clyde32 on 05 March 2016
deskpro2k3 said:

save your freakin money...

Don't like ads;
use this. https://www.ublock.org/
or this. https://adblockplus.org/

I prefer ublock by the way. this is my contribution to you folks that don't like ads. And it's free.

Ublock Origin is the way to go. It's by the original team, it's very performance efficient, and from what I hear it doesn't outright block the ad.



SWORDF1SH on 05 March 2016

Ioi has enough money sorry. You have to be fucking insane to pay to go onto a website.
The ads on here are just pure greed. Like I've mentioned before, ads are fine but pop up ads almost every time you go to a new page is a joke. Sometimes I get 2 pop up ads on top of each other that are purposely made hard to x out of (from mobile).
I've seen sites with paid staff have better and less ads. We shouldn't be suggesting to pay to fix a problem but rather we boycott until problem is fixed.