all legal immidgrants by fingerprint ID or at least a photo ID is a good idea

I'm sure that already happens. Coming into the US as a non-citizen, I get all 8 of my fingerprints taken every time, as well as an updated photo.

What we need is:

- Treat border tresspassers as criminals. As a sovreign state, the US needs to punish anyone crossing the border illegally.That's exactly how US citizens or any foreign citizens are treated in Mexico. If all caught trespassers had everything confiscated from them, kept in some prison camp for about 3-t6 months and then sent back to Mexico, stripped down to their underwear, they'll be discouraged to try again.

- Punish all US citizens that employ illegal immigrants. It's illegal for a US person or company to hire illegals. There should be fines and prison time for those who disobey the law. There should be harsh penaltines for those who make false documents, as harsh as those imposed on those who make fake money.

- Repeal the laws that make the children of illegals US citizens. There is no logic in treating them as US citizens. Make it retroactive, 10  or 20 years back.

- Deport all illegals caught in the US, no matter for how long they've been here, confiscate all their assets and send them back to wherever they came from, stripped down to their underwear. If they refuse to say where they came from, send them to Antarctica or Liberia.

- Stop whining that, absent illegals, there won't be any more nannies for our kids (really? your kids have nannies), our lawns would be unmowed (I do mine and my kids help and I do my dishes too) and there would be a shortage of gang members and rapists (well, maybe they have a point there).

Almost all of the above, except for the auto-citizen stupid law are legal today. In facct, the Stimpson-Mazolli law which gave amnesty to most illegals in the country back in 1982 was supposed to introduce 'zero tolerance' to all new illegals and their employers but the non-amnesty half of it was never fully enformced because the US employers want cheap illegals in the country so that they can pay everyone less.

So, no need for a wall. Just keep in mind that the illegals in the country are here because it benefits 'the rich'. It's less expensive to pay some illegal next to nothing to harvest the the crops or chop dead cows into 'beef' then to introduce robots or pay US citizen humans a decent wage. The bleeding hearts' advocacy for looking the other way when in comes to illegals it results in a hellish life for most illegals and it benefits the rich and heartless who are taking advantage of this.

If you were here to see the number of them that come in, both legally and illegally, or if you were to talk to any of the people that flee, then you wouldn't really have much to say. Here's a complete list of Mexicans who are fine in Mexico the way it is:

The rich

The cartel

That's it. Everyone else who stays is either incapable of leaving or too stubborn to admit their country isn't theirs anymore.

Azuren wrote:

"That's it. Everyone else who stays [in Mexico] is either incapable of leaving or too stubborn to admit their country isn't theirs anymore."

I am sorry but you just made it up because it sounds good. Yes? You have absolutely no source for your statement.

Aside from all the Mexican friends I have, you're right. I have no source. I can only regurgitate what they tell me their reasons are for leaving Mexico, some of which include "The area I'm from has become too dangerous" and "It's nearly impossible to move up in life." When asked why they visit Mexico, they claim that some of their family is there, typically either because of attachment to the land or because they refuse to acknowledge the horrible things that are happening around them. 

I would bother with more of a response, but your post history indicates you'll never read this.

Blah, a wall would do nothing. Build a wall 45 feet tall, they will just bring a 46 foot ladder. If we want to put a stop to illegal immigration, we need to stop the causes for illegal immigration. Those are the huge economic differences between The us and Latin America as well as an easily manipulated welfare system.

Glad we could come to an agreement. So, stricter regulation, no benefits for illegals, and no wall.

It's very different to say that most Mexicans (or almost any country) are not happy with the way their country is doing than to say they want the US to take over it. There are more than 100 million Mexicans, they have a good economy and good infrastructure in general, and since we are going by guesstimates, I would bet the number of Mexicans who would want something like that is close to nonexistant.

Besides there is no reason for the US to do it, Mexico is one of your biggest trading partners and doing something hostile to them would just damage heavily both countries. I live in Chile and we have ilegal inmigration problems with Peruvians and Bolivians and, now more recently, with Colombians. Still, with all the trouble that comes from it, building a wall and taking hostile actions against them would result in bad relationships and worse consecuences.

This isn't Iraq or any small country in the middle East, Mexico is a big country, with a huge population and a growing economy, any agression towards them would be simply dumb

What are doing European countries to stop migrants now ? Building walls.

Walls have been builded in Austria, Hungary,Macedonia, etc. EuroTunnel has guards 24/7 checking literally everything etc. Poland has border control again, France same etc. UK does literally everything to stop economic migrants now.

Trump's wall will not stop lets say smugglers, gangstas ( they got the money to buy guards ) but will stop average economic migrant.

Looking at the number of Latinos in US, the migrats are really big issue now.