Because every game needs to be 1886 by default on PC or bust right?.

No my point is that graphics performance is not going to be the piece of the puzzle that PC gamers can widely claim as an advantage when the biggest percentage of pc gamers have integrated graphics APU's

WIll they for all of time though?. You seem to feel as if you have complete concrete definite answers as to why they won't ever despite throwing out the fact that time changes everything, same with technology and markets.

Just everyone to know.
Carl freebanned me because i bash nintendo fans.
I own a wii u btw. Sure i hate nintendo. LOL.

So you broke another rule and decided to avoid your ban. Not sure you'll be staying on this site for much longer withb the way you are going about this and spamming in other threads.

Nope thats the first rule i broke, not another. Also the ban is not justified.

It is now.

Its pc gamers that bring up the power of pc's or how inferior consoles are. And what good does it do? nothing, you play the same games consoles can play in higher res or fps. And when it comes to exclusives, they look awful for pc and ps4 games tend to incredibly outperform the pc.

Wich brings us to the topic at hand, it dosent matterif pc's are more powerfull, the same games that it will have will be playable on ps4 and will probably share the same AAA games cuz they alwaysgo to every platform and lets be hnest, thesse are the games that will moove units. then when the exclusives showoff, the ps4 will have more high end developers that will truly take advantage of the hardware and have good experiance with games, while on the pc, the main games that will be exclusive are small indys, for the most part. there will be a couple of high end games on pc excluisvity, but not many cuz the installbase will start low and devs will port everithing just to brake even. So consoles will still get the best support in the end.

We have actually seen better on the PC, for years infact.

But you know what? During the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 era, "Graphics didn't matter", "Resolution didn't matter", "Framerates didn't matter" when it came to Console vs PC arguments... And now that the consoles can do last century 1080P gaming suddenly they might hold a sliver of relevence in high-end graphics? Hardly. Are they good enough? For most, can't expect miracles out of mid-range hardware.

Most frostbite powered games (Dragon Age: Inquisition, Battlefield 4, Battlefield: Hardline, StarWars: Battlefront etc') were all a step down from the PC in terms of graphics, The Order 1886 isn't the most graphical game to grace our screens and nor is Driveclub.

But you know what... I am just going to assume you never played Crysis 3 maxxed out in eyefinity or in 5k, that's the only game I need to win that argument. ;)


Most of the biggest AAA PC games however are usually ports of console games, so what do PC games tend to use all that extra horsepower for? Well. That's easy to answer.
* Higher Resolutions. - 1440P, 4k, Eyefinity, 5k, sky is the limit.
* Higher Framerates. - 120fps, 144fps.
Things like HBAO instead of SSAO, better Anti-Aliasing, Texture filtering, shadowing, lighting, shaders, texture quality... PC games are more often a "step up" from it's console release... That is, untill we near the end of a generation and it ends up being generational difference (Or more).
All those extra effects aren't free, these are the *exact* same games played on consoles, just upgraded with better effects and higher quality assets afterall.

Not only are high-end PC's faster on-paper, but also in the real world, PC's are also loosing that "inefficiency" edge thanks to Driver, OS and API improvements.

Basically high end powerful exclusives for consoles, weak small indies for PCs?

I cannot take one seriously for claling the install abse low as a start (as in everything needs to burst huge with you despite the longevity sales that are always a solid fact with PC).

Disagree, I;m sorry but I just do on many levels.