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GribbleGrunger said:
Swordmasterman said:

2 Weeks from launch and the Quantum Break's Game is coming up, but the Game isn't moving Hardware.

Every upcoming PS4 game ahead of the XB1s biggest release this year isn't good at all. I don't think $300 is going to cut it.

So the Price Cut should be from 350US$, to 250US$ ?.

The Chart just update things from 3 days ago, so Today is the day that in the chartz the Xbox One, get a Price cut ?, or is tomorrow ?.



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Swordmasterman said:

So the Price Cut should be from 350US$, to 250US$ ?.

The Chart just update things from 3 days ago, so Today is the day that in the chartz the Xbox One, get a Price cut ?, or is tomorrow ?.

They've been $300 for a while now as far as I know. MS are left with nothing to do but drop it to $250 this Christmas if they want to shift consoles. The question is, will they do that? Their strategy this Christmas will show us where they really stand on the issue of Windows V XB1. Will they take great losses in order to get more XB1s in people's hands? Or will they pull advertising, keep the price as it is and push een harder with Windows 10?

It's going to be a fascinating year.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:
I hope ps4.5 is real. If so ps4 sales could be more than 20ml a year, and i want one.

PS4'S Sales already are more than 20ML a Year, a New version would not make more people purchase a PS4, would make people that would purchase a PS4, purchase a PS4.5, and this don't increase the Install base, just split it.

Last year Sony Announced 18 Millions of Playstation 4 sold in the beggining of the year, this year they said that they sold 35.9 Millions of PS4, so 17.9 PS4, was sold in 1 Year, and the console already have a YOY Up, in every month of NPD, on USA.

Nope the ps4 hasnt sold more than 20ml in a year thus far but likw you said its been doing 17-18ml. I think a new revision to the console can push sales to 20ml or more.



jason1637 said:
Swordmasterman said:

PS4'S Sales already are more than 20ML a Year, a New version would not make more people purchase a PS4, would make people that would purchase a PS4, purchase a PS4.5, and this don't increase the Install base, just split it.

Last year Sony Announced 18 Millions of Playstation 4 sold in the beggining of the year, this year they said that they sold 35.9 Millions of PS4, so 17.9 PS4, was sold in 1 Year, and the console already have a YOY Up, in every month of NPD, on USA.

Nope the ps4 hasnt sold more than 20ml in a year thus far but likw you said its been doing 17-18ml. I think a new revision to the console can push sales to 20ml or more.

No, it can only Split the Userbase, the Console itself and the Games will sell more than 20 Millions in 1 Year, people seems to forget that Games is what sell consoles, How Much Playstation 4, sold in 2014 ?, 13-14 Millions ?, in 2015 it sold over 18 Millions, why do you think that the Console will need this new Version in order to sell 20 Millions ?, in 2016, when we have VR, and some of the Biggest exclusives coming out, Plus a Main-line Final Fantasy.



Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:

Nope the ps4 hasnt sold more than 20ml in a year thus far but likw you said its been doing 17-18ml. I think a new revision to the console can push sales to 20ml or more.

No, it can only Split the Userbase, the Console itself and the Games will sell more than 20 Millions in 1 Year, people seems to forget that Games is what sell consoles, How Much Playstation 4, sold in 2014 ?, 13-14 Millions ?, in 2015 it sold over 18 Millions, why do you think that the Console will need this new Version in order to sell 20 Millions ?, in 2016, when we have VR, and some of the Biggest exclusives coming out, Plus a Main-line Final Fantasy.

Whenever a new revision comes out consokes sales usally see an increase. As for vr i dont see it selling console. Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero are the only exclusives that i can see having a big impact in sales but even with those exclusives im not sure ps4 can do 20Ml or more. FF is only a big system seller in Japan and the legs of FF ganes dont impress. 



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Swordmasterman said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Every upcoming PS4 game ahead of the XB1s biggest release this year isn't good at all. I don't think $300 is going to cut it.

So the Price Cut should be from 350US$, to 250US$ ?.

The Chart just update things from 3 days ago, so Today is the day that in the chartz the Xbox One, get a Price cut ?, or is tomorrow ?.

On amazon its been 299$ for Xbox One for like two months or longer already... they priced it that way long before the official price cut from MS.



jason1637 said:
Swordmasterman said:

No, it can only Split the Userbase, the Console itself and the Games will sell more than 20 Millions in 1 Year, people seems to forget that Games is what sell consoles, How Much Playstation 4, sold in 2014 ?, 13-14 Millions ?, in 2015 it sold over 18 Millions, why do you think that the Console will need this new Version in order to sell 20 Millions ?, in 2016, when we have VR, and some of the Biggest exclusives coming out, Plus a Main-line Final Fantasy.

Whenever a new revision comes out consokes sales usally see an increase. As for vr i dont see it selling console. Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero are the only exclusives that i can see having a big impact in sales but even with those exclusives im not sure ps4 can do 20Ml or more. FF is only a big system seller in Japan and the legs of FF ganes dont impress. 

Last year when tey said that Sony, had not big Exclusives, it sold 18 Millions of units, if it have 12% YOY this year already surpass 20 Millions, and do you really think that 2015 was PS4'S Peak ?, and we are on This chart, you saw in the last few days how Popular the Playstation VR Is, it will indeed move sales, and I'm sure that Playstation VR, alone would be more than enought to push 12% YOY Growth for Playstation 4.

"Final Fantasy is Only a Big System Seller in Japan" How much was the difference between Final Fantasy Type-0 HD for PS4 ?, Type-0 gave a Demo of Final Fantasy XV, for free when you purchased it, but the truth was that Type-0 was a Bonus, and Final Fantasy XV'S Demo the true purchase, on USA, was 5-6 to 1 In favor of the Playstation 4 version, against the Xbox One's Version.

Final Fantasy, is a Worldwide Big System seller, and because in the last 20 Years was a Sony Exclusive game, the Majority of the Fan-base is on Sony's Console, the Xbox's Final Fantasy Fanbase is close to nothing, and a Game, that in his Lowest Selling Main-entry, sold 1.44 Millions on Japan First Week, this means that the Game is a Huge system seller despite having short legs, the game Push a lot of Hardware and Software.

Lets compare to Halo, the Last Halo, sold over 940-980 Thousands First week on USA, against the Lowest Selling Final Fantasy's First Week, it was 1.44 Millions.

Final Fantasy XV, can make the PS4 Sell in 1 week in the same level as of the Launching of the Console, or even more (on Japan), is a Huge Seller.

Again, Dragon Quest, is a little more Popular in Japan than Final Fantasy, and it sold over 65 Millions of units, with nearly the Same number of Main entries, this means that Final Fantasy, must have sold over 55-60 Millions on Japan, but the Total of the Series is 110 Millions, so it sold over 50 Millions Overseas, And you say that is just a System Seller on Japan ?, Dragon Quest, nearly a Japan-only franchise because Enix, before became Square Enix, aways made the Localization for the Western Harder, while Square Soft, since Final Fantasy 3, Saw a potential in the West, and they have invested in the West, if they had chose Enix's Way of things, Final Fantasy's Franchise, would be smaller than Dragon Quest's Franchise.

the players will mainly buy it for Playstation, because who is Fan of Final Fantasy, is fan of either Dragon Quest, Persona, Star Ocean, Tales of, Mana's series, etc, and those franchises are not on Xbox, so is a System Seller.



GribbleGrunger said:
Swordmasterman said:

So the Price Cut should be from 350US$, to 250US$ ?.

The Chart just update things from 3 days ago, so Today is the day that in the chartz the Xbox One, get a Price cut ?, or is tomorrow ?.

They've been $300 for a while now as far as I know. MS are left with nothing to do but drop it to $250 this Christmas if they want to shift consoles. The question is, will they do that? Their strategy this Christmas will show us where they really stand on the issue of Windows V XB1. Will they take great losses in order to get more XB1s in people's hands? Or will they pull advertising, keep the price as it is and push een harder with Windows 10?

It's going to be a fascinating year.

Or a. Slim for $250



jason1637 said:

Or a. Slim for $250

What I'm saying is this Christmas  we'll find out how serious MS are about the XB1.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:

Whenever a new revision comes out consokes sales usally see an increase. As for vr i dont see it selling console. Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero are the only exclusives that i can see having a big impact in sales but even with those exclusives im not sure ps4 can do 20Ml or more. FF is only a big system seller in Japan and the legs of FF ganes dont impress. 

Last year when tey said that Sony, had not big Exclusives, it sold 18 Millions of units, if it have 12% YOY this year already surpass 20 Millions, and do you really think that 2015 was PS4'S Peak ?, and we are on This chart, you saw in the last few days how Popular the Playstation VR Is, it will indeed move sales, and I'm sure that Playstation VR, alone would be more than enought to push 12% YOY Growth for Playstation 4.

"Final Fantasy is Only a Big System Seller in Japan" How much was the difference between Final Fantasy Type-0 HD for PS4 ?, Type-0 gave a Demo of Final Fantasy XV, for free when you purchased it, but the truth was that Type-0 was a Bonus, and Final Fantasy XV'S Demo the true purchase, on USA, was 5-6 to 1 In favor of the Playstation 4 version, against the Xbox One's Version.

Final Fantasy, is a Worldwide Big System seller, and because in the last 20 Years was a Sony Exclusive game, the Majority of the Fan-base is on Sony's Console, the Xbox's Final Fantasy Fanbase is close to nothing, and a Game, that in his Lowest Selling Main-entry, sold 1.44 Millions on Japan First Week, this means that the Game is a Huge system seller despite having short legs, the game Push a lot of Hardware and Software.

Lets compare to Halo, the Last Halo, sold over 940-980 Thousands First week on USA, against the Lowest Selling Final Fantasy's First Week, it was 1.44 Millions.

Final Fantasy XV, can make the PS4 Sell in 1 week in the same level as of the Launching of the Console, or even more (on Japan), is a Huge Seller.

Again, Dragon Quest, is a little more Popular in Japan than Final Fantasy, and it sold over 65 Millions of units, with nearly the Same number of Main entries, this means that Final Fantasy, must have sold over 55-60 Millions on Japan, but the Total of the Series is 110 Millions, so it sold over 50 Millions Overseas, And you say that is just a System Seller on Japan ?, Dragon Quest, nearly a Japan-only franchise because Enix, before became Square Enix, aways made the Localization for the Western Harder, while Square Soft, since Final Fantasy 3, Saw a potential in the West, and they have invested in the West, if they had chose Enix's Way of things, Final Fantasy's Franchise, would be smaller than Dragon Quest's Franchise.

the players will mainly buy it for Playstation, because who is Fan of Final Fantasy, is fan of either Dragon Quest, Persona, Star Ocean, Tales of, Mana's series, etc, and those franchises are not on Xbox, so is a System Seller.

Sony had bloodborne, the order, uncharted collection which are big exclusives and a bundle for two of the biggest ips cod, and battlefront which helped in the ps4 selling 18ml. I doubt psvr will push ps4 sales up 12% because the persons would have to buy the console and headset which woild cost a lot.

How does comparing type 0 sales in the US between ps4 and zv1 disprove that its only a big system seller in japan? 

Most ff players are on PlayStation but ff13 sold over 2ml on xb360 so there's still a fanbase on xbox.

I dont understand why your comparing different type of games and in different regions. 

 

So your saying most jrpgs are on PlayStation and that makes FF a system seller? Thats like saying any exclusive is a system seller because its not on an other system which isnt true.

Btw your reply to my post doent really say anything about the ps4.5 which we were talkibg about.