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Cubedramirez on 25 February 2016

Oh cry a river. You're indie. Doesn't mean you're entitled to anything.



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JOKA_ on 25 February 2016
SpokenTruth said:
pokoko said:

Wait, wait, wait.  You're talking down to the developer of one of the most decorated games of last year?  You're scoffing at his "one game" on the market?  Really?

That's a really lofty opinion you have of your own knowledge of the industry.

Well, I've been part of the industry for more than a decade so if I'm talking down, it's from a perch I didn't earn just yesterday. 

That aside, and more to the point than my own history, simply following the industry can tell you all you need to know about release schedules.  When was the last time that Sony, Nintendo or MS releases a home console during the same year it was unveiled? The fact no unveiling happened in 2015 pretty much guaranteed a release date beyond 2016 if home console conventions are held.

Uhhhhh...

 

PS4 reveal - Feb 2013

PS4 release - Nov 2013

(9 months)

 

X1 reveal - May 2013

X1 release - Nov 2013

(6 months)



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Ganoncrotch on 25 February 2016
AEGRO said:

May i remind people that Moon Studios have under their belt one of THE best games of this gen called Ori and the Blind Forest.

You can speculate all you want about this specific situation, but dont try to underestimate their talent...just dont.

It isn't their talent which is in question here, it is the magnitude and importance of them having early access to the Dev kits. The issue is the fact that in reality it takes a team a far longer time to create AAA+ games for a new piece of hardware and as such big AAA teams need to have dev kits for far longer than a indie developer to create the same end experience as each other with their products.

There is probably (almost definitely) more coding done in the differences between AAA titles running on both PS4/X1 as there would be behind all of Ori and the Blind Forest, nevermind creating a full AAA game from scratch.



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TheLegendofDS on 25 February 2016

You wanna know the best part about this guys rant is that it got a former PS exec. to support Nintendo.
http://gamingbolt.com/former-playstation-exec-criticizes-ori-devs-comments-on-nx



Miyamotoo on 25 February 2016

Former Playstation executive calls Moon Studio's comments on NX dev kits 'immature'
http://gonintendo.com/stories/252836-former-playstation-executive-calls-moon-studio-s-comments-on-nx-d



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Ganoncrotch on 25 February 2016

I would think everyones thoughts on this matter are more or less the same, if there was any chance of a console manufacture sharing pre release information with these devs before this matter there is none at all now that you would share such sensitive information with people who would have a childish blowout like this, just really making other indies look bad when one goes off like this imo.



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Kai_Mao on 25 February 2016
Volterra_90 said:
kitler53 said:

this, that, and the other one.

nintendo needs to follow sony's lead and be more open to indies.  you guys can say mean things all you want about indies but even if you had all the big publishers but no indies your hardware will have lots of multi-month droughts of games.  games are just getting fewer and farther between and indies are the middle ware.  nintendo needs to treat them like first-class developers or it will get xbox'd out of the market again.

Because Nintendo doesn't support indie games and give them a space in almost every event they make? 

Or even allow an indie to have their own amiibo, which are selling like hotcakes?



Fei-Hung on 25 February 2016
TheLegendofDS said:

You wanna know the best part about this guys rant is that it got a former PS exec. to support Nintendo.
http://gamingbolt.com/former-playstation-exec-criticizes-ori-devs-comments-on-nx

 

 

Yup, and to add to it, his tweet got baked up by a MS Exec. Shit like this don't happen everyday. 

 

OT: whether the Indie developer is right or wrong can be argued, but one thing is for sure, the Dev ain't making friends in the right places with that attitude. 

 



Volterra_90 on 25 February 2016
Kai_Mao said:
Volterra_90 said:

Because Nintendo doesn't support indie games and give them a space in almost every event they make? 

Or even allow an indie to have their own amiibo, which are selling like hotcakes?

They obviously don't care about indies. 



Alby_da_Wolf on 26 February 2016
Ganoncrotch said:
I would think everyones thoughts on this matter are more or less the same, if there was any chance of a console manufacture sharing pre release information with these devs before this matter there is none at all now that you would share such sensitive information with people who would have a childish blowout like this, just really making other indies look bad when one goes off like this imo.

I hope they won't be so drastic, but I agree after this hissy fit they could become even more prudent and carefully evaluate not only talent and commitment, but also maturity of small devs before considering giving them early access to new HW or its specs. A talented but childish dev could not only leak confidential data if angry for some possibly childish reasons, but even just to brag, and console producers won't run this risk.



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