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Is this what MS is planning to achieve?

Yes 41 40.20%
 
No 41 40.20%
 
Maybe 20 19.61%
 
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Scisca, you do have a point.
But i think there's more to it. It's not like either or but more like and. MS actually has three platforms right now. With Windows Phone/Mobile and Windows 8/10 already supporting crossbuy.
What MS is doing right now might be a step into a future where it's not so much about devices. PSN and Xbox Live already are services.
The way emulation on XBone works should allow an easy transition to other x86 devices more or less easily. Crossbuy between Xbone and PC points into the same direction>Xbox as a service, Xbox consoles are a living room settop box for people that don't want to play on PC's or don't have a gaming rig.
Xbox on PC is for the hardware enthusiasts and people that don't want to buy a console for one or two games as well as people that only play small download games.
Windows Mobile will play it's role and we might see Windows on other devices as well.
Basically, the hardware will become less relevant with Xbox consoles being for people that want to play on a console.



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Protendo said:
GamechaserBE said:

History tend to repeat itself.

You are absoutetly right. It felt like just the other day I was arguing with Sony fans that PS Vita's cross buy stradegy is not going to save the Vita. This is what a company does when they are giving up on the console. This is a sign of the direction the company is taking on the device and nothing more. That sign is less exclusive support, and possibly the transition of less support in the future...

History repeats itself indeed. I'm saying the same thing I said before. This will have a negative impact, and is a sign of things to come.

To think the Vita could be saved was a silly thing anyway especially how they handled it in the west but cross buy certainly must have helped with sales though.  I think if SFV/MGSV was also on Vita it could have helped the sales even if it was cross buy.  Vita had many issues and for the West the lack of some great games that are on pc really hurts it sales.  A GTA game could have helped but needed more than just a bad COD game. It is crazy to think that a PC game Minecraft is becoming one of the best selling games on the Vita. That should have woken up some Sony representatives.

If it didn't hurt the xbox 360 to have games like Fable/Gears of war/Oblivion/Bioshock/mass Effect as console exclusive  I don't see why it would hurt so much for the xone to have Quantum Break or others as console exclusive.   Like I said before Sony is like following the xbox 360 strategy.  The PS3 bundles were all with games like Motorstorm/Resistance/heavenly Sword/Gundam etc at the beginning all exclusive. Go to a shop now and you see PS4's bundles with COD/SW BF/SFV/FC PRimal/etc..   because those are games people want and no game is exclusive :s.  Is it bad? no because those bundles are super succesfull sales wise (well atleast the first two).   Sony is investing in games and don't even care  that they are also on PC and between now and 5 years Sony will probably invest more money in consoles exclusives than in first party and that is the normal way to go.  We probably see a lot of NX threads in a couple of years 'NX is the console to get because so many PS4 exclusives are also on PC' 



jonathanalis said:
And about having to pay for playing online on xbox, they would fix that?
I mean, if i dont pay xbox live gold, and i have a crossbuy game on PC and on xbox, i wouldnt be allowed to play online on the living room xbox, but id be allowed to play it online on my PC.
Going in the strategy you thought, they would free the online play on xbox or charge the online play on PC?

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Also, they could also release a xbox receiver. where you could stream your PC/xbox crossbought games on your TV in other room. (and maybe work also as an apple tv). Id buy that instead of a xbox one.

There are only two options on that table, either keep charging Xbox players or make it free online. There is no way on earth that they will ever win in charging PC players. Unlike Xbox fans years back when MS charged online, PC players fought back against MS for trying to charge them for online play, if it didn't work the first time it definitely isn't going to work the second time. I don't see how you think it's fair to start cracking down on an open platform hat actually fought back for very good reason and the other side which completely gave up any and all struggling. One side fought, the other didn't, I'd target the side that didn't put up a fight rather than trying to bust the knuckles of those that actually told MS to stop.



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AEGRO said:
manny10032 said:

means MS has two communities to sell a game too instead of only one.

Cross Buy = One Buy

2 Communities = 1 Sale

I dont see how this would benefit MS from a software sale point of view.

There are people who aren't interested in the console but are in the games... 



AsGryffynn said:
AEGRO said:

Cross Buy = One Buy

2 Communities = 1 Sale

I dont see how this would benefit MS from a software sale point of view.

There are people who aren't interested in the console but are in the games... 

 

also there are people who are only interested in plug in and forget about it consoles only.  I think ms should still make both.  Heck I bought both cuz some games that dont run well on x1 i'll get on pc. but theres lots of games taht dont run well on pc.  Right now witcher 3 on pc is doing amazing for me. knock on wood.

 



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The Xbox brand has never won a generation, and it never will. Before I go on, let me just say that I owned and throughly enjoyed my original Xbox and Xbox 360. I even played the original Xbox more than I played PS2. So this is coming from someone free of bias. But the Xbox brand, as we know it, is finished. At least when it comes to competing. Nothing they do will give them a "win". If the 360 couldn't do it, nothing will. Xbox, as a gaming brand, has peaked and it's best days, behind it. This new idea of merging PC and console, imo, is just a smoke screen. They have different plans than what they're telling you they have. I believe they're trying to leave dedicated console gaming behind and this is their way of doing so with as little fanfare as possible. I also believe it's an attempt to retain as many core Xbox fans as they can during the transition. They're feeding lies and misinformation to the public in an attempt to pull it off, and... some people are buying into it.

Now, that's just what I believe. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're foolish enough to actually think they've found some mystical blue ocean ala Nintendo with the Wii where PC gamers revive their sinking ship. I really don't know. But either way, it's a dead end in my opinion. The whole Xbox experiment is over.



I've already hooked up my PC to a massive TV in order to play on the big screen. I fail to see how this new MS device could replace that.



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