what is an average laptop? I thought I had an average laptop and it can barely run portal 1 (steam version). I guess mine is below average. I bought one at walmart 2 years ago and the only thing I know is that it has 4GB of RAM. That's how casual I am regarding to PC specs. I'm sure the majority of gamers out there are like me. Console and PC can coexist satisfying the need of every type of gamer.

So...people who own a gaming PC that's at least $500 (not including the monitor) should buy an Xbox One so that they can play the games they already own (unless they have a bunch of games on Steam) on their tv? Instead of buying a Sony or Nintendo console that would give them access to games that they don't have access to on their PC?

That seems like an awful lot of money for...remote play...

The Last of Ussold about 6 million copies on a user base of more than 70 million PS3s. That should tell you something about the importance of having some games only on console...

To be true, MS doesn't care about the sales of Xbone, they want the games to sell. Hardware isn't what makes money for MS, they earn cheap change or even lose money on it. This move would allow MS to turn the Xbox brand into a huge sales pitch for their tablets and phones and an extra incentive for PC gamers to buy games from MS rather than Valve. And Xbox consoles alone would sell well enough to keep them on the market, cause some people just want a console and they'd get a great one, while MS won't have to win the console race anymore. Xbone would basically be the ultimate Steambox and I'm sure MS would be fine with that.

PCs and consoles do compete. But by doing this, MS turns Xbone into just one piece of a bigger puzzle and gives gamers more value than anyone else. Tell me, what does it matter for MS if instead of going PS4 vs Xbone, gamers go PS4 vs PC and they buy PC games from MS? It's only better, cause they have to buy Windows in the first place, which gives better profit margin than an Xbone unit. Also, it is impossible for MS to win with Sony. They will always lose in EU and Japan, while NA is up for grabs - not what MS wants, they don't want to fight a war that's impossible to win. Now they could sell Xbone to people who want the Xbone experience and give them the added extra PC support for free, but most importantly, Xbox would be a huge, huge, huge selling point for their mobile division - the place where real money's at. Their tablets and phones are struggling, but if MS gives me a tablet/phone that allows me to play my whole PC library with an Xbone controller, I won't consider the competition for a split second. And tablets/phones cost more than an Xbone with a better profit margin and people buy them more often. Pure win. The only people who lose, are forum MS fanboys involved in the console war - who cares about them?

Moreover, look how it changes the value of games and the argument for 3rd party games - the real moneymakers. Right now PS4 wins, because it gives you slightly better graphics. With unified W10 MS gives you the best graphics on PC, so Sony loses that argument, and you get a comparable Xbone version on top of that. Basically, PS4 loses its appeal when it comes to 3rd party games, since MS gives you more for the same price! Why buy a 3rd party game for PS4, if you can get the PC and Xbone version for the same price (and possibly a tablet one down the line?).

PS. Xbone is the last console I'd buy - for me it's PC>Sony>Nintendo>MS. But when they release their exclusives on a PC, I'm going to buy these games - so they get extra sales they wouldn't get if they kept the games on Xbone. And when the Bone gets cheaper I could see myself buing it for the other room if I already had a great library to transfer from PC.

Most people (not members of gaming forums) don't buy consoles for exclusives. They go for COD, FIFA/Madden, Fallout, TES, etc.

And yes, this move would turn the Xbone into a Steambox for PC gamers - and there supposedly is a market for that? This would be a very cheap Steambox. With a guaranteed maximum optimization. With a perfect UI. With a great controller already in.

If you're a PC gamer that has kids, would you rather buy them a PS4 and have to keep buying games for it, or would you rather get an Xbone and share your library with them? I know what I'd do

If you're a console gamer - you still get the same console, with games that you won't get on PS4. If you don't care about PC gaming, you'll still be getting Halo, GeoW, etc. only on Xbone.

And the possible tablet integration, which to me is the biggest gamechanger. This would basically allow anyone to mix and match what they want. PC, console, tablet - whatever you want, take it, buy games from MS and you can play them on every device!

Lets be real for a minute. Sony isn't investing piles of cash into PSNow, because console gaming is going to stay with us forever...

i have an R9 390 on my new desktop and xbox one and sometimes i stream to my xbox when im lazy and wanna play in bed and 50 inch tv. I still use my xbox controller tho. I think the progression of x1 and pc is a great move! i welcome it. I will always buy both.

Didn't work for the PS Vita, isn't going to work now.

This is a lose/lose for Xbox fans.  This is what the losers do, and for good reason.  

Xbox One just lost exclusives. Xbox now has less to differentiate itself from the competitors. I doubt anyone is going to by an Xbox One for a few first party that they already played on a superior platform years later; furthermore, by then they have a big enough collection to justify it the Xbox would be a dead platform.  Notice third party games without contacts are not jumping on the we will develope a free PC version if you buy the Xbox One game bandwagon. Even less are going to want to restrict themselves to Windows 10 alone. All this does is increase the opportunity cost for consumers who are thinking about getting an Xbox One over PS4. 

True exclusives vs games I can get on the PC. I'm not saying this is bad for Microsoft. As a stockholder, I see this as a win/win.

The Xbox value just went down, and it couldn't pick worse timing to do it.

this perspective is way to narrow. its not the nail in the coffin. its just one of many.

before i bought a ps4 i mainly played on pc. besides this little fact... but console players might have bought an xbox.

He knows it's not true.

There are many of us, and even more on GAF that said first party exlusives not on the PC are the reason to own the Xbox.

It's above me why everyone makes such a big deal out of Xbone exclusives going to PC, while at the same time ignoring the fact that soon we'll be able to play every single PS exclusive on the screen of a microwave through PSNow.