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IkePoR said:
tbone51 said:

 

Awakening sold 2 million copies.  it is no longer niche.  It is a flagship IP now, one Nintendo will protect.

*Exactly, before niche and it had high review scores. My point...... But now its not niche so nintendo has to be paying off because reasons?

 



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tbone51 said:

IkePoR said:

Awakening sold 2 million copies.  it is no longer niche.  It is a flagship IP now, one Nintendo will protect.

*Exactly, before niche and it had high review scores. My point...... But now its not niche so nintendo has to be paying off because reasons?

To keep review scores high and limit talk of flaws in the games.



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IkePoR said:
Goodnightmoon said:

I guess they killed a lot of people when Mario Tennis got a 59 or Amiibo festival less than 50.

Don't be dense.

Before you get too bent out of shape about me picking on Nintendo, let me make it clear that all "triple A" companies do this with their flagship titles.  Of course they didn't manufacture reviews for those two games.  They were quick cash grabs to pad the system library/release schedule.  

Are you seriously arguing that Nintendo pays reviewers?



It would have a point if the big publications were making outstanding reviews of the games. Although I don't think reviewers are paid, at least, the vast majority of them, and I say that about every big company. Worst review for FE:Fates came from GS, which is a big publication and if I had to pay, I would pay them, IGN, and those big publications. And they're normally rougher with Nintendo games than some other reviewers. So I think the argument is not fair.



IkePoR said:

tbone51 said:

*Exactly, before niche and it had high review scores. My point...... But now its not niche so nintendo has to be paying off because reasons?

To keep review scores high and limit talk of flaws in the games.

So all the previous ones were good and had good reviews but suddlenly this one is bad because...reasons I guess and since is not niche anymore Nintendo is paying the media to make it look like is as good as the previous ones...

My head hurts. Maybe is just... as good as it uses to be?



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Goodnightmoon said:
IkePoR said:
As always, take all these reviews with a grain of salt. "They're an opinion" - yeah, Nintendo's opinion when they hold these reviewers at gunpoint with a sack of money.

I guess they killed a lot of people when Mario Tennis got a 59 or Amiibo festival less than 50.

Well yes, but only because prolonged exposure inevitably leads to suicide.

IkePoR said:

Awakening sold 2 million copies.  it is no longer niche.  It is a flagship IP now, one Nintendo will protect.

Two million copies does not a "flagship" make, at least not when you have franchises that can do ten times that.

Clyde32 said:

Are you seriously arguing that Nintendo pays reviewers?

And threatens. "Silver or lead," as they say!



I haven't payed much attention the gaming news lately, so what's the difference between the 3 versions? 



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Clyde32 said:
IkePoR said:

Don't be dense.

Before you get too bent out of shape about me picking on Nintendo, let me make it clear that all "triple A" companies do this with their flagship titles.  Of course they didn't manufacture reviews for those two games.  They were quick cash grabs to pad the system library/release schedule.  

Are you seriously arguing that Nintendo pays reviewers?

Yes.



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RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

It has nothing to do with lacking knowledge. Hiku's breakdown also had nothing about what maps were shared, being on the other side of a battlefield doesn't make it an entirely new "stage" (you can easily find a chapter list on the FE wiki). I don't see it as any different as a reviewer would have to play both campaigns to have a true understanding of the game. To go back to your Fire Emblem 7 comparison, you can't really review the game based off of Lyn's campaign. It's expected to play both for having a valid criticism of the game. Incorporating choice into the game doesn't make the other route a brand new game. Nintendo used the opportunity of two games to cater to casual and hardcore fans with the difficulty differences.

From speaking to those who have actually played all campaigns, their experience was far more different than the rosy picture most are trying to paint. I was never trying to say they're virtually the same, but I don't think it's right to consider them completely separate products. A eShop prompt wouldn't appear to buy the other version if you made the "wrong" choice in Birthright/Conquest.

Who do you spoke to?

I've spoken to mostly real life friends who have spent time abroad and such have JP 3DSes.



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RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

I've spoken to mostly real life friends who have spent time abroad and such have JP 3DSes.

That's at least something.

Since you cut the rest of my post, does this mean you agree that there are approximately 20 maps that are exclusive to either version of the game?

I don't have a real comment on the legitmacy of Hiku's analysis since I don't have the data he's pulled from. Since I don't know how he got all of his numbers,  I'm not going to criticize data I haven't seen. I don't think it all adds up, especially with how difficult it is to truly analyse without a copy in hand. If you count in the side quests/chapters, then I'm sure each goes over 20. 

I just was dropping the conversation from that direction, and trying to speak from my anecdotes.



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