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Clyde32 on 15 February 2016
tbone51 said:
Hiku said:

Yeah, we can't really put a number on those things. And even then, people will have their own favorites, I'm sure.
But it does look like Fates has interesting maps from what I've seen. With the new dragon skills that can affect the terrein especially.

What I'm illustrating here mainly is how much of each version is a new game, rather than how good or bad it may be.

My biggest and kinda only complaint about awakening was the terrible map layouts. Conquest kills it. One reason why Ikes games are the best! 

It's a shame the Tellius saga sold poorly. I would definitely pay for an HD collection of the two.



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outlawauron on 15 February 2016
jonathanalis said:
64$ for a game with 60% more content than awakening and 3 storylines, doesnt seem that bad.

or 40$ for a game with almost same content as awakening.

That $64 is only applicable for those who preordered via two retailers (which is long sold out). And with all of it combined, it still has less content than Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.



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Clyde32 on 15 February 2016
outlawauron said:
jonathanalis said:
64$ for a game with 60% more content than awakening and 3 storylines, doesnt seem that bad.

or 40$ for a game with almost same content as awakening.

That $64 is only applicable for those who preordered via two retailers. And with all of it combined, it still has less content than Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.

Granted Radiant Dawn goes for $100 these days.



outlawauron on 15 February 2016
Hiku said:
Pineapple said:
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That's interesting info. I will save it for future reference, thank you.

But keep in mind that Nintendo specifically compared this to Awakening. That's why I'm using Awakening's standard for comparison.

It's also not entirely accurate. Awakening didn't have the most levels for a game in the series.



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outlawauron on 15 February 2016
Clyde32 said:
outlawauron said:

That $64 is only applicable for those who preordered via two retailers (which is long sold out). And with all of it combined, it still has less content than Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.

Granted Radiant Dawn goes for $100 these days.

Truth. After awakening, the price of second games in the series got a massive jump in price.



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Pineapple on 15 February 2016
Hiku said:
Pineapple said:

Awakening's main quest was 26 missions long.

If you buy all the three Fates games, the average length of the main quests will be 25 missions.

You'll have significantly fewer paralogues than you had in Awakening, but counting them as equally important chapters as the main chapters is fooling yourself. They weren't.

Effecitvely the difference in length is that the Fates games don't have the missions where you recruit your characters' children from the future.

A chapter doesn't neccesarily signify a particular length. For example, Chapter 6 of Fates is extremely short. A standard playthrough on Youtube is about 9 minutes long. While a standard playthrough of Chapter 6 in Awakening takes 30 minutes.

Like I said in my opening post, not everything content wise can be properly quantified.
But let's at least not bash people and call them idiots if their sense of value for content differs from yours.

I think you misunderstood my point with the end sentence there. If you buy one path, then the second part, and then buy the third part, and then feel that you've been ripped off, your choices have been extremely strange. If the first one wasn't worth what you paid for it, why buy the second, and why on earth buy the third? There's no conceivable way anyone in their right mind would act that way. Obviously, deciding in advance that you feel the games are not worth their price does not make you an idiot.

outlawauron said:
Hiku said:

That's interesting info. I will save it for future reference, thank you.

But keep in mind that Nintendo specifically compared this to Awakening. That's why I'm using Awakening's standard for comparison.

It's also not entirely accurate. Awakening didn't have the most levels for a game in the series.

It's probably not entirely accurate, and that's also down a bit to what you count as a chapter. I didn't count the 3 trial maps of Path of Radiance, for instance, but I think that's a sound omission. I also didn't count the 18 chapters of tower of Valnhi and the Lagdou Ruins in Sacred Stones, which might be a bigger omission, but they're each so small that counting them as a full chapter is overstating it.

I'm positive that Awakening has the most levels for a game in the series, though. Radiant Dawn will take you longer to finish, because its chapters are larger, but Awakening has the most chapters.



Ultrashroomz on 15 February 2016

Thank go I preordered the Special Edition.

I feel like I saved my self A LOT of trouble by doing so.



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JWeinCom on 15 February 2016

I get and appreciate the analysis, but I think the title of this thread is misleading.

Each version of the game, individually, has as much or more content according to your analysis.

If you buy Birthright, you're getting as much content as awakening.

If you buy Conquest, you're getting as much content as awakening.

I think that's what people were concerned about. They were worried that if they only bought one, they'd be getting half a game.

What would be more accurate is saying "Birthright and Conquest don't have twice as much content as Awakening" or something like that.



Nem on 15 February 2016

I think you are confusing ammount of content with ammount of new content.

It's a different side of the story, but theres obviously going to be common points. I don't agree that its awakening split in 3. If you want a comparison, use the Shining force 3 scenarios.



Darc Requiem on 15 February 2016
Nem said:
I think you are confusing ammount of content with ammount of new content.

It's a different side of the story, but theres obviously going to be common points. I don't agree that its awakening split in 3. If you want a comparison, use the Shining force 3 scenarios.

Nem, that's an excellent comparison. I think the OP is being a bit disingenious. BTW I'm still salty that we never got Chapters 2 and 3 of Shining Force 3 in the West. Thanks Bernie Stolar.