Mr Puggsly said:
Swordmasterman said:
Yes, it indeed work, a Console just need good exclusives and good games to stay strong agaist the competitor, Nintendo, simple does not have Sucess, because their policys take consumers away, they charge too much for something that is cheaper, they still have Region Lock, and the games are locked to the Console, not to the Account.
Playstation 3, was the cheapest Blu-ray reader, so why Playstation 3, did not had the sucess of Playstation 2 ?, because a lot of games that were exclusives became multiplataform, and Xbox 360, also had a lot of good games early in his cicle, the Playstation 3, begun to release their truly big exclusives in 2009, and Beyond, the Wii, was sucessful because had the Wii Mote, and games that even who were not a gamer, played for fun, i saw the Wii, on Medical Station, helping the people with the "Motion Gameplay", so was a console with exclusives that had a lot of use, by gamers, and even by non-gamers.
I Don't believe that people purchase Console for Multimidia, is because of the Games, today we have a lot cheaper options of Multimidia, and if we had Something like the Playstation 2, just focused on Gaming, and with a lot of Good exclusives, of course would sell the same, or even more than the Playstation 2.
Master System, is the Brazilian's Best seller console, still selling on Xbox One, and Playstation 4, levels on the country until nowdays, together with the Playstation 2, more than 5 Millions of units sold, selling over 150 Thousands per year (multiple times more than Xbox One, on japan), and is just a Game Console, people buy it for the games, to play Sonic, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, and other games, people prefer to play on Consoles.
Brazil, is not alone, the Playstation 2, even after the Playstation 3, Xbox 360, and Wii, launch, the Playstation 2, still sold over 20 Millions of units from 2008, to 2012, over 5 Millions per year, nearly on a faster speed than Xbox One, is selling nowdays, and he had other 3 competitor, also other 3 Next gen consoles, to compete with.
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I feel the biggest reason Wii U isn't successful is because the console is its expensive, casuals have moved away from home consoles, lack of 3rd party content, and I really feel consumers don't want that tablet controller. The things you are mentioning aren't important to the average consumer, certainly not the average person who owned a Wii.
360 and PS3 launched before streaming services became popular. PS3 was not a cheap Bluray player, $599 is not cheap for a device that play Blurays especially when you consider most people were content with DVDs. Many were still using CRT TVs at that point. PS3 started to gain steam in 2009 because it went down to $299. Notable exclusives helped push a more affordable PS3.
I'm not saying people buy game consoles solely for media. But its very important. Vita TV for example is considered a joke because its lack of streaming video options.
In regard to Brazil and Master System, you're ignoring a few things. Taxes are really high in Brazil so they relied on a 3rd party to manufacture the console there. NES would have likely dominated Brazil had they done the same thing. People in Brazil stuck with Master System for a long time because buying a modern machine is expensive. Without the bullshit taxes Brazil's console gaming market would be very different.
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How many times we will have to say that ?, Playstation 3, sold because of the Exclusives, the Master System, would still sell more on Brazil, because Sonic, is more popular than Mario, here on the Country, and the Other consoles still selling, the PS3, the Xbox 360, The PS2, but only the PS2, and the Master System, got this Main Stream on Brazil, but PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Playstation 4, sold less, or and selling less than the Master System.
Playstation 3, was the Cheapest Blu-ray reader, so if you had to run a Blu-ray disc on 2006, Playstation 3, was the Cheapest option, and how can you say about Playstation 2, selling 20-25 Millions of units from 2008, to 2012 ?, this is 5-6 Millions per Year, more than Wii U, and Nearly more than Xbox One, even after 6 Years the Playstation 3, and Xbox 360, launched.
Tax, have nothing to do with it, do you think that Someone, will buy a Console from 30 Years ago, that they don't want, only because is 200RS$, insteady of buying atleast a Last Gen console, for 600-700RS$ ?, i want to see if the Americans still buying old consoles even after so many years.
People still Import consoles for purchase, but also still buying 30 Years old consoles, on the Dozen of thousands units every year, only because they want to play on the Console.
You want to say that My Country is poor, and they cannot purchase a Next Gen, or Previous gen console, because of that they are Stuck with Master System ?, The average Wage is 2000RS$, stores sell Xbox One, nearly for free with 1 Year of EA Acess, for 1200-1400RS$, and Playstation 4, for 1600-1800RS$.
So people still prefer to purchase a 200RS$ system, from 30 years ago only because they don't have Money ?, you Know that Atleast Half of the Brazilians have a Month wage of 6000-8000RS$, don't you ?, the others are More rich, and the minority is Poor, is less than 5-10%.
The country have 200 Millions of Citzens, is not because of Tax, or anything like this, is because the console is good, have good games like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Sonic.
Exclusive is the main reasons that Consoles sell this much, the Wii, sold a lot because was the only console that had Motion exclusives, with the Wii Mote, if the Wii, did not had the Wii Sports, that was a Exclusive, do you think that it would have sold 100 Millions of Units ?.
