Those few are elected to run the country so they have to take the blame, it's the same reason a CEO is fired or steps down if a company isn't doing well.

Bingo!  You hit it right on the head as I too support a Health Savings Account Model.  My views directly align with Ben Carson's healthcare plan and it makes sense that a neurosurgeon would have the best model.  I believe he just calls it a Health Empowerment Account.

And the citizens are not at fault ? Why should a representative have to take the blame for a crime to which one third of a country commits ? 

Is it a leader's job to make it's subjects behave in a lawful manner ? Authorities aren't the only ones upholding the law, I believe it is a citizen's job to do the same otherwise we have no need for the law ... 

And similarily for big businesses, there are bad CEOs but at the same time you forget that there are bad employees. If a company makes bad products or gives bad services is the fault supposed to be entirely placed on it's leader ? 

You give the common man too much benefit of the doubt. If they voted to strip the rich minority of any wealth is that supposed to be righteous ? If they voted to have a man be executed because they didn't like him does that mean they are right for it ? Let's go one step further, if they opted for anarchic chaos to be free to commit their own crimes by their will on an individual basis is unleashing the pandora's box the right answer in comparison to having law abiding citizens ?

Does self-responsibility not matter to you ?

Sorry, I know many people think this guy is God's gift to political altruism, but I'm just not "Feelin' the Bern".

Like, not at all.

His ideas are so ideologically "righteous" (all big banks are bad! free health care for everyone! no more student loan debt!) and he extolls them with such unwavering conviction that I just can't see him ever acknowledging that he's going to have to compromise on a lot of them and meet in the middle with lawmakers of opposing viewpoints if he's ever going to get anything done as President.

I just see him sticking 100% to his ideology and not budging an inch, which will get him exactly nowhere with Congress. Sorry folks, but it's called "politics" for a reason. You gotta be willing talk and to reach across the aisle and make some concessions if there is going to be any progress.

Yes it is the leader's job to make sure those under them behave in a lawful manner to think otherwise is fooling yourself, why do you think these few make and alter laws for people to adhere to. Citizens aren't going to care if you make no effort to enforce the rules that's how it's alway's been, do you think people in the US just stopped a lot of the racist clashes out of the good of their hearts? No they were forced to accept civil rights and such laws are enforced. It's the whole point of having a system that selects a leader or leading group otherwise we'd all simply roam around in small tribal like groups that make their own rules.

You're also using a lot of strawman arguments here, a bad employee gets dismissed, if the company is underperforming in it's services the leader has to sort it out whether it means laying people off to bring in more reliable workers or restructuring, if their product isn't good the leader has to have his departments work on improving them. Seriously your examples are like you're dreaming here and hold no ground, you talk about self responsibility despite the fact you're defending companies doing the same.

Self responsibility is nothing more then someone taking care of themselves, you bring it up as if it's relevant for people to do the government's job for them, people don't care much about anything apart from their own self interests. If someone can dodge tax and get away with it they'd do it, why? Because it's more money for themselves and money improves a person's situation.

@Bold It's called trust and citizens can choose to not abide by the law if they don't trust those who they elected ... 

Citizens do care about laws and I do believe racism was stopped out of their own hearts but leader's are only there to reflect that ...

The only one naive here is you thinking that citizens need not make an effort to follow the law. Criminals won't follow laws but a law abiding citizen will ...

The police simply isn't everywhere so it is unrealistic to enforce the law at a large scale ...

Then a bad CEO will also get dismissed, plain and simple. You can have a bad CEO and everyone else be good and the company will still float. The same is simply not true for the reverse for big companies when a CEOs contrbutions are tiny ... 

Most companies do take self-responsibility to adhere to the law, expectations, and employee payment plans. It's the individuals that need to follow on their own responsibility. Do they never have to be held accountable for their own actions ? 

It's not just taking care of yourself in this context. If the said individual is a citizen it is their job to follow the law. If the said individual chooses to not complete secondary education then they must deal with lower wages in the general case. Every individual must deal with the consequences for every choice they make in life ... 

If someone dodges tax illegally then it is their own shame for robbing others of these services ...

These past rebuttals only keep showing why an individual must take actions on their own instead of constantly relying on the welfare of others and in general show why more capitalism is better than socialism ... 

Paradise is only for the privileged who has earned it or inherited it, simple as that ... 

Now you're flat out making things up, citizens not required to follow the law? Sorry but that part alone says you're out of your depth on this one, go ahead go outside right now and refuse to follow the law than argue with this logic in court saying you don't trust Obama, they'll think you're mad. Laws are mandatory.

You're naive this post highlights it on every level, from your views on the law to your knowledge on taxes, people will never stop doing an activity even if it's against the rules unless it's enforced. This is highlighted in the civil rights movement, when Lincoln abolished slavery and so on, people only abide by the law because it is enforced and the are punishments for breaking them, when given the opportunity people will exploit something as seen in Greece with taxes or even in London when the riots broke out. 

You're arguing self responsibility in regards to taxes yet the companies you're defending are flat out doing what you're condemning the Greek people for doing, the's no two ways about this you're making one rule for one and another rule for the other, it's a complete contradiction. Self responsibility is looking after one's self and managing their own situation, the's no other context to it, it's one of the reasons the people evading tax in the first place were doing it to look after number 1, this term literally has no direct link to your argument nor does it back it.

Now your the one making the strawman. I said they can "choose" not to abide by the law but that however doesn't mean it's not their responsibility to follow the law ...

Then how do you explain the fall of the roman empire despite the fact that they still had authorities just before the fall ? 

In the end it is the citizens that must respect the law and you know it ... 

It doesn't get anymore obvious that a nation's rebellion is stronger than the total authorities strength. That is shown over and over again when we look at history ...

Except it's different. Companies are just sending profits to tax paradises which is pefectly legal whereas the citizens of Greece are underreporting their personal income which equates to tax fraud. False equivalency on your part ... 

The former acted within it's own bounds, the latter did not ... 

It's the 99% that's the issue, not the 1% ...

Self-responsibility is about been held accountable for one's own power or control as per Dictionary.com's definition. That means the individual is the one responsible for their own crimes and other things including financial investments. There's no dodging this one for you ... 

Well good thing he is dubbed "The Amendment King" in Congress.  I am sure people there would much rather work with him over Clinton, who they hate more than Obama it seems not to mention he completely understands he cannot get it done alone, hence his message: "political revolution"
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you


And as far as Greece is concerned.  That issue has only to do with corrupt leaders in charge.  I have friends there that have preached about it and cannot stand the shady shit their leaders are involved with.  Has nothing to do with the type of government they are, just the people in chage.

Your ignoring the fact that people want jobs, so they tend to self-regulate, your also ignoring the fact Universities set quotas due to limited places, if a course becomes very popular entrance scores go up to cap the numbers,  your also ignoring that most developed countries (not US) already have this system in place, which has been proven to be more economical than the high fee user pay system of the US