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fatslob-:O said:

And the citizens are not at fault ? Why should a representative have to take the blame for a crime to which one third of a country commits ? 

Is it a leader's job to make it's subjects behave in a lawful manner ? Authorities aren't the only ones upholding the law, I believe it is a citizen's job to do the same otherwise we have no need for the law ... 

And similarily for big businesses, there are bad CEOs but at the same time you forget that there are bad employees. If a company makes bad products or gives bad services is the fault supposed to be entirely placed on it's leader ? 

You give the common man too much benefit of the doubt. If they voted to strip the rich minority of any wealth is that supposed to be righteous ? If they voted to have a man be executed because they didn't like him does that mean they are right for it ? Let's go one step further, if they opted for anarchic chaos to be free to commit their own crimes by their will on an individual basis is unleashing the pandora's box the right answer in comparison to having law abiding citizens ?

Does self-responsibility not matter to you ?

Yes it is the leader's job to make sure those under them behave in a lawful manner to think otherwise is fooling yourself, why do you think these few make and alter laws for people to adhere to. Citizens aren't going to care if you make no effort to enforce the rules that's how it's alway's been, do you think people in the US just stopped a lot of the racist clashes out of the good of their hearts? No they were forced to accept civil rights and such laws are enforced. It's the whole point of having a system that selects a leader or leading group otherwise we'd all simply roam around in small tribal like groups that make their own rules.

You're also using a lot of strawman arguments here, a bad employee gets dismissed, if the company is underperforming in it's services the leader has to sort it out whether it means laying people off to bring in more reliable workers or restructuring, if their product isn't good the leader has to have his departments work on improving them. Seriously your examples are like you're dreaming here and hold no ground, you talk about self responsibility despite the fact you're defending companies doing the same.

Self responsibility is nothing more then someone taking care of themselves, you bring it up as if it's relevant for people to do the government's job for them, people don't care much about anything apart from their own self interests. If someone can dodge tax and get away with it they'd do it, why? Because it's more money for themselves and money improves a person's situation.