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Kennel83 said:
Reading the comments section on youtube is so annoying. People saying this is a shit remaster that looks far worse than dolphin, and things like why should I buy this when I can play it for free on dolphin? It gets on my nerves. Don´t they realise that it´s some kind of piracy and therefore it´s illegal?
I´m the first one saying they could have done more to this remaster (also, some people still think this is a remake not a remaster) but calling it a cash grab and complaining about everything just for the sake of complaining is wrong. I don´t remember reading so much shit about The Last Of Us remastered, and that game came what? one year after the ps3 version? This game is almost ten years old ffs, I bet a lot of the complaints come from people who wasn´t going to buy the game anyway, so why complain in the first place?
I´ve had my doubts as well (the game still looks ugly, but that´s something about the artstyle not the graphics so...) but the game looks great and I´ll be there day one.

I think some people are failing to see that is way harder to make a Wii game looks actual than a PS3 game. It'd never gonna be a graphical marvel. That's pretty obvious. I must say that when they first showed the game, it looked like a shitty remaster. Now, it looks good. I can eat crow and admit that in the end they didn't do a bad job. And I think that everyone could see the improvement without paying a lot of attention. It's not an outstanding remaster, but, c'mon, there are far worse remasters out there. Almost every remaster from last generation have barely any improvement, for example. But I'm open to examples to compare xDDDDD.



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Volterra_90 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

No chance in hell.

With Zelda U they are going to show the best graphics possible for the console, they are gonna be aiming for 30fps in order to achieve that, and since every Zelda before has been in 30fps (except for A Link Between Worlds) is not gonna feel like a downgrade in that regard specially when most open worlds this gen are in 30fps on consoles.

Yeah, definitely. And I would be very surprised if it manages to be 900p. I'd say it will be a 720p/30fps game. But who knows? I'm ready to be surprised xDDDD.

I'm fully expecting 720p/30fps. I'm expecting them to be completely gorgeous too and thanks to the artstyle they will be probably very sharp even at 720p.



Evre 3D Zeldas are 30fps (even remasters/remakes) except N64 Zelda's that are around 20 fps.

Saying that Its almost certain that Zelda U will be 720p/30fps.



Pavolink said:
Kennel83 said:
Reading the comments section on youtube is so annoying. People saying this is a shit remaster that looks far worse than dolphin, and things like why should I buy this when I can play it for free on dolphin? It gets on my nerves. Don´t they realise that it´s some kind of piracy and therefore it´s illegal?
I´m the first one saying they could have done more to this remaster (also, some people still think this is a remake not a remaster) but calling it a cash grab and complaining about everything just for the sake of complaining is wrong. I don´t remember reading so much shit about The Last Of Us remastered, and that game came what? one year after the ps3 version? This game is almost ten years old ffs, I bet a lot of the complaints come from people who wasn´t going to buy the game anyway, so why complain in the first place?
I´ve had my doubts as well (the game still looks ugly, but that´s something about the artstyle not the graphics so...) but the game looks great and I´ll be there day one.

I wonder what are people thinking in Nintendo reading all these comments...

They are probably thinking something like "Well, we can always release more amiibo. People love amiibo" xD

I don´t know, I´m starting to feel tired of people complaining at every f* game Nintendo release. I sometimes look at their spanish facebook page and dear god, people are complaining ALL the time at everything they do. It feels like whatever they do people will be pissed and angry at them no matter what. 



Kennel83 said:
Pavolink said:

I wonder what are people thinking in Nintendo reading all these comments...

They are probably thinking something like "Well, we can always release more amiibo. People love amiibo" xD

I don´t know, I´m starting to feel tired of people complaining at every f* game Nintendo release. I sometimes look at their spanish facebook page and dear god, people are complaining ALL the time at everything they do. It feels like whatever they do people will be pissed and angry at them no matter what. 

Welcome to the internet! I honestly see more negative comments about anything I like than positive. I'm not saying that criticism is not right, but sometimes is just unfair xDDD. For example, I could find logical that somebody complained about the game not being 60fps. That's okey. But saying it's not an estable frame rate is just ridiculous xDDDDDDDD.



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Kennel83 said:
Reading the comments section on youtube is so annoying. People saying this is a shit remaster that looks far worse than dolphin, and things like why should I buy this when I can play it for free on dolphin? It gets on my nerves. Don´t they realise that it´s some kind of piracy and therefore it´s illegal?
I´m the first one saying they could have done more to this remaster (also, some people still think this is a remake not a remaster) but calling it a cash grab and complaining about everything just for the sake of complaining is wrong. I don´t remember reading so much shit about The Last Of Us remastered, and that game came what? one year after the ps3 version? This game is almost ten years old ffs, I bet a lot of the complaints come from people who wasn´t going to buy the game anyway, so why complain in the first place?
I´ve had my doubts as well (the game still looks ugly, but that´s something about the artstyle not the graphics so...) but the game looks great and I´ll be there day one.

What all those Dolphin enthusiasts forget is that there are four distinct advantages to this remaster.  First, convenience.  You have to fiddle with Dolphin a bit and get your controller to work with it.  Not overly difficult, but an extra step.  Second, guaranteed performance.  Emulators are massive resource hogs and hit and miss depending on your PC specs.  My laptop is far, far, far more powerful than a Wii and yet the original Metroid prime runs like complete ass in sub-720p cause Dolphin just doesn't like my graphics card.  So yeah, a lot of people would be unable to get stable performance for straight Twilight Princess running at 1080p with AA, much less the game plus a ton of texture and FX enhancements.  Third, greater preservation.  I've seen a number of TP texture packs, most of the most technically advanced also change the art direction, in some areas quite considerably.  Fourth, greater artistry (namely in textures).  Now I'm not knocking the talent of these teams.  But a lot of these packs have texture quality inconsistency, over aggressive use of certain effects like bump mapping, and more importantly textures that tile way to obviously.  The latter is a very common problem I've seen over years of modding experience but is usually hidden under grass meshes.  But TP doesn't use grass meshes.  So the obnoxious tiling is exposed at all times.  So the textures in the official remaster are better designed and at least of equal and often greater resolution.  

So yeah, I think there's plenty to recommend TP HD to a lot of people.  If some TP fans want to instead play it on Dolphin rather than buy it again, that's their business but they need to stop over hyping dolphin.



It's a remaster. Not a remake. They've made some solid improvements. I'm getting it no matter what.



Volterra_90 said:
Kennel83 said:
Reading the comments section on youtube is so annoying. People saying this is a shit remaster that looks far worse than dolphin, and things like why should I buy this when I can play it for free on dolphin? It gets on my nerves. Don´t they realise that it´s some kind of piracy and therefore it´s illegal?
I´m the first one saying they could have done more to this remaster (also, some people still think this is a remake not a remaster) but calling it a cash grab and complaining about everything just for the sake of complaining is wrong. I don´t remember reading so much shit about The Last Of Us remastered, and that game came what? one year after the ps3 version? This game is almost ten years old ffs, I bet a lot of the complaints come from people who wasn´t going to buy the game anyway, so why complain in the first place?
I´ve had my doubts as well (the game still looks ugly, but that´s something about the artstyle not the graphics so...) but the game looks great and I´ll be there day one.

I think some people are failing to see that is way harder to make a Wii game looks actual than a PS3 game. It'd never gonna be a graphical marvel. That's pretty obvious. I must say that when they first showed the game, it looked like a shitty remaster. Now, it looks good. I can eat crow and admit that in the end they didn't do a bad job. And I think that everyone could see the improvement without paying a lot of attention. It's not an outstanding remaster, but, c'mon, there are far worse remasters out there. Almost every remaster from last generation have barely any improvement, for example. But I'm open to examples to compare xDDDDD.

Yeah! Just look at the wii version of TP, it´s so bad that I couldn´t even finish it. The textures have been improved a lot, I still think they should have done something to the lighting or at least add more contrast to the game, but come on, it´s noticeable that they have worked a lot.

But if you read the comments on youtube, facebook, other forums... people say the game has barely any improvement at all. One must be pretty blind to not see those improvements. What were they expecting? The game is still going to be "ugly" is not a remake, is a remaster of a 10 year old game.



Volterra_90 said:
I think some people are failing to see that is way harder to make a Wii game looks actual than a PS3 game. It'd never gonna be a graphical marvel. That's pretty obvious. I must say that when they first showed the game, it looked like a shitty remaster. Now, it looks good. I can eat crow and admit that in the end they didn't do a bad job. And I think that everyone could see the improvement without paying a lot of attention. It's not an outstanding remaster, but, c'mon, there are far worse remasters out there. Almost every remaster from last generation have barely any improvement, for example. But I'm open to examples to compare xDDDDD.

I think most people complaining about TP:HD were expecting it to look like the Zelda E3 demo. The artstyle even looked like TP which further fueled peoples expectations on a possible TP remake. 



Kennel83 said:

Yeah! Just look at the wii version of TP, it´s so bad that I couldn´t even finish it. The textures have been improved a lot, I still think they should have done something to the lighting or at least add more contrast to the game, but come on, it´s noticeable that they have worked a lot.

But if you read the comments on youtube, facebook, other forums... people say the game has barely any improvement at all. One must be pretty blind to not see those improvements. What were they expecting? The game is still going to be "ugly" is not a remake, is a remaster of a 10 year old game.

That's what bothers me. You have to be pretty blind to not see any improvement. There are improvements, that's a fact, and nobody can deny it. I see comments saying "this is shit, they look the same". What the fuck, man, it obviously doesn't look the same! XDD. People might think that the remake could have been better. Of course, I think the same. It could've been better. But it's not bad at all. 

To the comment above, yeah, I'd really love it to be a TP remake. I strong emphasise the word remake. When it was revealed that it wasn't going to be a remake, I was dissapointed, but I stopped expecting a Zelda E3 Demo, because... They're not fooling you, it's a remaster.