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Aielyn said:

Kimishima's explanation sounds perfectly believable - he said that he was aware of the likelihood of the Wii U not selling as well as the Wii, and they interpreted that to mean that he saw something wrong with the Wii U... but his actual view was that the Wii was so popular, it would be hard to get people to shift away from it. Even if he believed otherwise, there's just no way he'd actually say something in an interview that suggested something wrong with what Iwata did.

Well, they made it pretty easy to shift away from the Wii by letting the support die a whole year before the launch of the Wii U. The problem was: people shifted away in all directions: some to PlayStation, some to Xbox, some to PC, some to handhelds, many to smartphones and tablets, some to other entertainment sectors than video games and only a few to Wii U.

Perhaps they should have channeled the"away-shifters" better in the desired direction. ;)



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Conina said:
Well, they made it pretty easy to shift away from the Wii by letting the support die a whole year before the launch of the Wii U. The problem was: people shifted away in all directions: some to PlayStation, some to Xbox, some to PC, some to handhelds, many to smartphones and tablets, some to other entertainment sectors than video games and only a few to Wii U.

Perhaps they should have channeled the"away-shifters" better in the desired direction. ;)

There are over 100 million people out there who own a Wii. At this point in time, PS4+XBO are at maybe 55 million. Many of those are people who bought PS3 and/or 360. There is no evidence that a significant proportion of the Wii install base moved to PS4/XBO.

Meanwhile, our estimates suggest that Mario Kart Wii sold 600,000 copies last year, and Just Dance 2016 is approaching 1 million on Wii. Brawl sold about 400,000 copies, and the Mario Galaxy games, between them, nearly sold 500,000 copies. The Wii is still selling software.

And if people moved to smartphone/tablet, then they still didn't "upgrade" their console in any direction, so the point still stands.

But hey, nice attempt to attack Nintendo.



Aielyn said:
Conina said:
Well, they made it pretty easy to shift away from the Wii by letting the support die a whole year before the launch of the Wii U. The problem was: people shifted away in all directions: some to PlayStation, some to Xbox, some to PC, some to handhelds, many to smartphones and tablets, some to other entertainment sectors than video games and only a few to Wii U.

Perhaps they should have channeled the"away-shifters" better in the desired direction. ;)

There are over 100 million people out there who own a Wii. At this point in time, PS4+XBO are at maybe 55 million. Many of those are people who bought PS3 and/or 360. There is no evidence that a significant proportion of the Wii install base moved to PS4/XBO.

Meanwhile, our estimates suggest that Mario Kart Wii sold 600,000 copies last year, and Just Dance 2016 is approaching 1 million on Wii. Brawl sold about 400,000 copies, and the Mario Galaxy games, between them, nearly sold 500,000 copies. The Wii is still selling software.

And if people moved to smartphone/tablet, then they still didn't "upgrade" their console in any direction, so the point still stands.

But hey, nice attempt to attack Nintendo.

So you are saying, the ~90 million Wii owners who haven't upgraded to a Wii U haven't shifted away from Wii either? They are still happy with their Wii and are just waiting for the "right" Wii successor? So why has there been a massive software sales decline since FY3/2012 (beginning April 2011), when only 10% of that hardware base switched away?

Are most of these ~90 million people playing their old Wii games over and over and over again? If yes, that's not helping Nintendo much. If that active hardware base of ~90 million Wii users (waiting for a worthy successor) were true, they added less than 1 game on average to their Wii collection since the Wii U launch.



So, maybe they will talk about NX in the next quarter results? Nice.



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Conina said:
So you are saying, the ~90 million Wii owners who haven't upgraded to a Wii U haven't shifted away from Wii either? They are still happy with their Wii and are just waiting for the "right" Wii successor? So why has there been a massive software sales decline since FY3/2012 (beginning April 2011), when only 10% of that hardware base switched away?

Are most of these ~90 million people playing their old Wii games over and over and over again? If yes, that's not helping Nintendo much. If that active hardware base of ~90 million Wii users (waiting for a worthy successor) were true, they added less than 1 game on average to their Wii collection since the Wii U launch.

Who said they're "playing their old Wii games over and over and over again"? I said that most of them haven't moved into the current generation. There are enough games available for the Wii that they won't have played, which would explain why games like Mario Kart Wii keep selling (and you seem to be forgetting the existence of used games, not to mention the fact that the numbers given by Nintendo are *shipped* games, so for titles like Mario Kart Wii, stocks have been gradually depleting). And other than that, most people who own game consoles aren't the dedicated gamers that play almost every day. Most are the ones that might pull out a game to play for a couple of hours on a weekend, or during a party. And this is true for all consoles of last gen (it may be somewhat less true of the Wii U this gen, as I could believe about 5-10 million 'core' gamers on a system). If we suppose that they have the system average of about 9.5 games per console, then they have about 9 games to choose from, and only play a couple of hours a week. They're not going to get bored that easily.

They aren't waiting for the "right" Wii successor. They just aren't that interested in upgrading at all, at least not yet. Maybe with the next generation, depending on whether something comes along to truly catch their attention the way that the Wii remote did. It's kind of like how the PS3 didn't do very well in the first few years after launch - people didn't transition over from the PS2, because they were satisfied with it, unless there was something specific to catch their attention, like the Wii remote. Meanwhile, any further taste for gaming will be satisfied by $1 games and freebies on their tablets.

Even if every single gamer in the current generation had a Wii last gen and bought only one console this gen, it would still only cover about two thirds of the Wii install base. Add in overlaps (people who own multiple current-gen consoles), and it would be less than half. Add in that quite a few won't have owned a Wii last gen at all, and you're down to maybe 25%, if you're being generous.

Nintendo tried to capture their interest with the Gamepad. But it didn't work. Amiibo has worked a bit better, and Splatoon is helping, too, but it's going to take another generation to spark anything even remotely resembling the Wii's interest. PS4 and XBO have mostly just carried over the natural upgraders, technophiles, social gamers, etc. Wii U has mostly grabbed the Nintendo fans and other fans of similar types of games. And the rest have remained with last gen, especially the Wii, and otherwise gotten their fix outside of the console gaming arena.



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Pavolink said:
So, maybe they will talk about NX in the next quarter results? Nice.

Thats almost certain because they will talk about plans for next fiscal year, but I expecting reveal before that financial meeting.



I would say nothing in this hinted at NX launching this year.



bigtakilla said:
I would say nothing in this hinted at NX launching this year.

Really? Did yous miss the part where he was asked about how they plan to return to "Nintendo-like profits" next fiscal year and his answer was that NX will play a major role?



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Miyamotoo said:
Pavolink said:
So, maybe they will talk about NX in the next quarter results? Nice.

Thats almost certain because they will talk about plans for next fiscal year, but I expecting reveal before that financial meeting.

Good! A late march-early april reveal, with a late april-early may financial mention in the next briefing.



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RolStoppable said:
bigtakilla said:
I would say nothing in this hinted at NX launching this year.

*slaps bigtakilla with a large trout*

Listen, when NX is mentioned as one key area to contribute to "Nintendo-like profits" in the next fiscal year (April 2016 - March 2017), then an NX launch in 2016 is much more probable than a 2017 launch.

He was more talking about My Nintendo and smartphones and shifting development to the next platform. Saying the next platform will release this year is a huge leap from what is actually talked about.