Some didn't like Tropical Frezee (like me), so the people that defended was saying that TF was the right move because Returns sales.

And again, nobody is asking Zelda team to do anything other than Zelda. And long cycles are bad as I have been whinning all the gen.

Ok, but why? Why the double standards? You agree long cycles are bad, so you agree (from what I understand) that the series is not mamaged at its best,  but don't you think another studio may be able to handle Zelda as well, while R&D3 could make new IPs (like Splatoon)?

Same goes for Wolly Yoshi, for example: the WiiU didn't need yet another 2D plaftormer, yet Goodfeel doesn't get any hate for creating one.

It's not double standard, it's expectations. Everybody was expecting something amazing from Retro, not another 2D. Goodfeel has been developed 2D since some years ago. For sure that people will be mad if Zelda team does a 2D DK rather than a new Zelda game.

But don't worry, Retro has gone in the irrelevance way. Nobody will be mad if they decide to do another 2D DK game because most won't care anymore.

It was the better decision, Metroid would sell even worse. Makes more sense to release the game that can actually help build the base first then release Metroid later when it has people to sell to. Obviously this didn't go as planned, but that's the Wii U's fault. And lol at Metroid being more "impressive" on name alone. What matters is if the game is good, which DKCTF very much is so nothing lost on that front.

"Disappointment" is just not a word I can associate with DKC:TF. It's a remarkable game that sold well for the userbase it had. It also has one of the best soundtracks of the 8th gen.

DKC:TF catered extremely well to hardcore Nintendo fanbase whereas Splatoon caters to the more common tastes of gamers today. DKC:TF is a challenging 2D platformer with high production value. That type of game just doesn't excite a broad audience of people. The 2D platformers with real mass appeal tend to have a much lower difficulty curve and emphasize ease-of-play and familiarity (New Super Mario Bros) over challenge and innovation.

Splatoon has often been mentioned as "Nintendo's answer to CoD" - and in a way, it kinda is. Up until Splatoon, nearly every other publisher except Nintendo has been after some kind of online shooter that can create a persistent community of gamers that will buy the series in the future. Nintendo just happened to do that better than most publishers. Big surprise.

The problem is that they are not doing Metroid later. And TF failure was not because of Wii U, because that is the same console that make MK8 surpass Double Dash and Super Circuit, and made from Splatoon a success. So no, no excuse about Wii U. Even Yoshi WW is selling better than Tropical Freeze.

They would have if the Wii U didn't fail, hence me saying it's the Wii U's fault. I didn't say TF was a failure , because it's not, unless you mean in terms of selling Wii Us, in which case every Wii U game ever is a failure, and every game on it including the already multimillion sellers would sell even more had there been a significant base to sell to. I can only imagine how much better Splatoon and MK8 would have done had they been on a Wii sized installbase.

So basically what you can expect from Goodfeel is just an average platform game with cute graphics. I guess yearly mediocre Mario Parties, yearly Mario Sports games, yearly Mario RPGs are also ok because those studios aren't able to make pretty much anything else. 

The problem I see here is from Nintendo and how they manage their own teams, not from Retro. You have so low expectations from many of thier japanese studios that Retro is supposed to make up for their incompetence and release the games they aren't able to make. But that's something a single studio can't realistically do atm. If Nintendo started to take on more ambitious projects with all their teams, you wouldn't have the problem to put Metroid, F-zero or new IP creation on hiatus.

Splatoon may have sold more on Wii, but Wii U was not a problem for it to sell 4M. MK is almost at 8M. The Wii U was not a problem for those games, why it was for DKTF?

Or they could have released an impressive game like Xenoblade X. They don't need to compensate anything. Again, nobody is saying DK is a bad game, but that was not what people was expecting and the game failed to impress or sell high amounts like the people that defended the game guaranteed.

Well the awnser for that question is quite simple actually, DKTF is not a multiplayer game.

Yes, it has a 2-player mode but its clearly not developed for that purpose.

Look at the Top 10 best selling WiiU games, look how many don't have multiplayer. You have your awnser.