It matters very much when people buy it thinking it's going to be a Halo type shooter when it's something else as the point they're putting forward is that Metroid is niche, one of the top complaints about Prime at the time from people was the controls and how unaccessible it was because people were trying to play it like it was Halo, once they figured it isn't a shooter a fair number didn't return. Both DK games on GC required bongos to play from what I recall and only one of them was a platformer while the other was a rhythm game and even then they're not the type of games that DKTF, DKCR, DKC, DKC2 etc... are.

Metroid is destined to be stuck selling around 1.5m because you need such a specific taste to be into the series.

You can't prove any of that. And if people really were so turned off by it, sales would have plummeted after the first few weeks, yet I'm pretty sure it didn't sell all of it's 2.82 million in a few weeks. There are a multitude of possible reasons that could have contributed to Prime 2's lower sales. It's widely regarded as a significant step down in quality from the first, for a start. All we know for sure are the resulting numbers, and on Gamecube Metroid comfortably outsold Donkey Kong, making the assertion that DK would always sell more in the same system provably false.

People weren't turned off by it they realized it's not a Halo style shooter, no game was like it so it had to be played to understand why. Here's a reason why Echoes dropped in sales, people knew at that point what type of game it was, it's also not a case that it's widely regarded as a step down it's seen as excelling in some aspects better than the original while falling short in others, for example the boss battles were superior in Echoes, but exploration is lacking.

Prime was also the first 3D Metroid game and first console game in close to 10 years so it had added hype on top of people thinking it was going to be like the sci-fi shooters hitting the industry at the time. He's not wrong in what he says DK would outsell Metroid on any system, even if you bring up the GC with Prime the exception doesn't offset DK blowing away Metroid on every other platform, SNES, GB, GBA, DS, Wii etc.. In fact on Wii DKCR by itself outsold Corruption, Trilogy and OM combined, the series is great but it's niche and that's how it is.

I'm would bet DKTF would have still outsold any Metroid game for Wii U regardless of selling lower than expected, ironic that lower then expected numbers are what Metroid normally manages.

Prime is widely considered one of best games ever made. Prime 2 isn't.

And he is wrong, because Metroid outsold Donkey Kong on Gamecube. That single fact makes him demonstrably wrong, and nothing else can change that.

So what OOT is considered the best game ever made it hasn't stopped following games selling well, this is practically a null and void argument by default if anything Echoes should have sold more with the predecessor being considered one of the best games ever made as it's still a very good game.

Again one exception doesn't offset his general point, DK blows Metroid away in general on all other platforms and only that exception, Prime, has managed the feat.

It's not what I think, it's just what the data shows. I couldn't care less about who the system is appealing to, the fact is Wii U owners are buying games the same way they would on any Nintendo system as software sales indicate. Mario, Smash, Kart, Zelda, etc. are the top games on each system, be it Wii, 3DS, or Wii U.

That is simply not true.

Xenoblade X for example is proof of that. Sold similar ammount on both. I like how you guys like to say "oh thats niche". Yes, but this niche corresponds to a segment of the market wich can be caracterised. And is clearly on both the Wii and Wii U.

You can tell me Metroid is niche, but i will somewhat disagree. Metroid has a wider appeal than simply niche. DK has a casual appeal mostly and a bit of hardcore/Nintendo fan appeal.

I said in one of my posts that the Wii U is composed of Nintendo fans and hardcore (this includes niche) gamers. Casuals are very few here. Sales for the console show that and sales for DKTF show that.

The games that still sell alot are beeing bought by the Nintendo fans and the very tiny casual market in the Wii U, maybe even some hardcores. Why? Because they capture the wider spectrum of the Wii U's audience.

Guess i should define the Nintendo fans as those that buy the Mario games and the most popular Nintendo games.

So, i hope this clears up why DKTF's sales are disappointing and why Metroid has a decent chance. The only thing that changes from the Wii to the Wii U is that the casuals mostly up and left. That is why titles aimed at a very casual audience will not sell as well as they did on the Wii, why Nintendo core titles still sell like crazy and why hardcore/niche titles still don't sell super well. Metroid still has its 2 segments mostly intact on the Wii U, and that is why it has a decent chance to sell better than DK.

It actually sold really well on the Gamecube aswell, wich had a similar audience/userbase. I don't know why this is even in question.

Being more family friendly is part of why it's more appealing, duh. All that tells me is Metroid is really niche and uncared for, which is unfortunate. Certainly doesn't mean a higher installbase actually decreases sales, and lol at GC sales being more noteworthy and relevant for determining how a Wii U game would sell than actual Wii U sales trends. Oh, and the Gamecube never got a mainline DKC game, so you can stop with that nonsense.

If you just want to be delusional and pretend that the usual games aren't still up there aswell, then sure, totally different audience. What happened with the Wii U is the same thing that affects all games, it simply sold way less, hence less software sales. The Wii series was affected the most yes, but so to were all their core games, Metroid would be no exception.

There's a multi-quote button, use it instead of filling up the thread with useless post like these.

How does Wii determine WiiU sales trend? Wow this is so pathetic it's not even funny. Like I said earlier MP1 over Jungle Beat is all that matters.