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Pavolink said:
Goodnightmoon said:


- Skyward Sword 2011
- A link Between Worlds 2013
- Zelda U 2016

2 and 3 years. WoWoW we dont have enough new zeldas we need 2 per year!

Your defensive comment becomes dumb the very moment you clearly wanted to ignore I was talking about the gap on homeconsoles.

Not as dumb as trying to overlook than in 2013 one of the best Zelda games in many years was created.



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Goodnightmoon said:
Pavolink said:

Your defensive comment becomes dumb the very moment you clearly wanted to ignore I was talking about the gap on homeconsoles.

Not as dumb as trying to overlook than in 2013 one of the best Zelda games in many years was created.

I'm not overlooking as I was not talking about handheld games but homeconsole ones.



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Pavolink said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Not as dumb as trying to overlook than in 2013 one of the best Zelda games in many years was created.

I'm not overlooking as I was not talking about handheld games but homeconsole ones.

Then:

Zelda II January 1987 - ALTTP November 1991  (Almost 5 Years)
ALTTP 1991 - Ocarina of Time 1998 ( 7 years)
Twilight Princess 2006 - Skyward Sword 2011 (5 years)
SS 2011 - Zelda U 2016 (5 years)

Why is 5 years so strange for a Zelda game when this has been happening half of the times?
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Goodnightmoon said:
Pavolink said:

I'm not overlooking as I was not talking about handheld games but homeconsole ones.

Then:

Zelda II January 1987 - ALTTP November 1991  (Almost 5 Years)
ALTTP 1991 - Ocarina of Time 1998 ( 7 years)
Twilight Princess 2006 - Skyward Sword 2011 (5 years)
SS 2011 - Zelda U 2016 (5 years)

Why is 5 years so strange for a Zelda game when this has been happening half of the times?
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Good to see you understood that handheld games does not belong on my argument. On top of that, you are forgetting the gap between Alttp and OoT. But as I have explained before, every one of them was different (except Alttp as I ignore why de big dev cycle).

 

Anyway, if you want to play that game, I will still win:

 

Alttp was released so far from Zelda II, and even so, it's not the same situation. The predecessor of Zelda II was not released 5 years before, but less than 2. The predecessor of Zelda HD was released on another console 5 years before.

 

Next one, OoT. The game was intended to be released in 1996, then delayed to 1997 and finally 1998. Even so, Miyamoto wanted to delay further, but Yamauchi's common sense make him stop Miya's wishful thinking. The game was developed to run on the N64 DD (hackers has found the title screen) as the game was developed with bigger scope in mind. As the time was over them, they decided to lower the game and make it fit on the N64 cartdrige. 2 expansions born from it: Zelda Ura (unreleased) and Zelda Gaiden (Majora's Mask late, when Aonuma took the project). During all the time in development and after many delays, they never stop showing the game. Even if the gap was big, they were always giving us screenshots and footage. Plus, it was the first attempt for a 3D game. Anyway, the game came out 2 years after the N64 launch, not 4 like Wii U, or 5 like Wii.

 

Next one, SS. Basically, the game was very deep in development. Some monkey decided that motion plus was need to be implemented in Zelda Wii, and rather than release the developed game and after it reuse assets and develop a new one with the motion plus in mind and all the unused ideas (like OoT-MM), the took the wrong way to invest even more money and throw part of their work away to develop the same one with the motion plus as the main feature.

 

Finally, Zelda HD is the worst one. Not a propper trailer. Not a name. Not a public demo. And that is 4 years and 4 months after the release of SS.

 

 

So no, the situation is not the same. Saying it is just because without all of this circumstances is just trying to defend their lazyness.

 

PS: Oh, and TP-WW was 4 years, but TP was ready in 2005. The delay was only for the Wii version as Aonuma admitted.



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Ok guys, let's get back to the original topic and not call someone's arguments dumb.



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Offcourse Splatoon moved more console than DK.

Basically it would be similar like saying Smash Bros. or Mario Kart moved more consoles than DK. People need to understand that DK is just another 2D platform Wii U game while Splatoon is great new IP that become third huge IP alongside with MK and Smash, and will become even more popular IP than Smash (Splatoon probably will sell more than Smash on Wii U).



Einsam_Delphin said:
Nem said:

I still think that MP4 would sell more on hype alone. Its obvious DKC was a game that was wished for, but TF wasnt. It was too soon for another DKC, but not for another metroid prime.

 

So you'd rather take arbitrary rules and assumptions over hard data, okay then...

 

Err... you do realise the data gives MP3 higher sales? Thats what the "data"shows. So you are the one ignoring it, or making up excuses that is...



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Miyamotoo said:
Offcourse Splatoon moved more console than DK.

Basically it would be similar like saying Smash Bros. or Mario Kart moved more consoles than DK. People need to understand that DK is just another 2D Wii U game while Splatoon is great new IP that become third huge IP alongside with MK and Smash, and will become even more popular IP than Smash (Splatoon probably will sell more than Smash on Wii U).

Yeah, I think some peoples expectations for Tropical Freeze was/is too high.  Like you said, it's a 2D sidescrolling platformer and those don't typically sell consoles anymore.  If they did, we wouldn't be complaining about the Wii U's bad launch lineup since it had NSMBU and NSMB games typically sell well.  If Tropical Freeze were a 3rd person 3D game, I think this discussion would have been a lot more interesting.



wombat123 said:
Miyamotoo said:
Offcourse Splatoon moved more console than DK.

Basically it would be similar like saying Smash Bros. or Mario Kart moved more consoles than DK. People need to understand that DK is just another 2D Wii U game while Splatoon is great new IP that become third huge IP alongside with MK and Smash, and will become even more popular IP than Smash (Splatoon probably will sell more than Smash on Wii U).

Yeah, I think some peoples expectations for Tropical Freeze was/is too high.  Like you said, it's a 2D sidescrolling platformer and those don't typically sell consoles anymore.  If they did, we wouldn't be complaining about the Wii U's bad launch lineup since it had NSMBU and NSMB games typically sell well.  If Tropical Freeze were a 3rd person 3D game, I think this discussion would have been a lot more interesting.

Hopefully now people understand the power of DK (or the lack of) and stop using it as an excuse.



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