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What a bunch of horses***.

If more actors were thinking like that, Leo would never attend Oscars for the rest of his life because of how many time he lost while deserving it.



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If they really want to make changes at who and what is nominated, why not start with the many questionable choices and pity-nominations the Academy has doled out over the years.

Forrest Gump winning Best Picture over Pulp Fiction
Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture over Saving Private Ryan
Stanley Kubrick never winning anything, none of his films ever being nominated for Best Picture
Francis Ford Coppola not winning Best Director for The Godfather
Crash winning Best Picture over Brokeback Mountain and Munich

Those are the real tragedies. Fix the system, the rest will follow.



This is turning weird. Lack of diversity? For directors, there are 2 american's, an aussie, irish and a mexican. That's pretty good diversity for an American awards ceremony.... sorry though, that isn't the kind of diversity they are looking for, is it? Yet I don't remember that many great performances from Black actors in the last year. I recently saw Creed, a great film, however lead actor Michael B Jordan was good but not great in it. Sly Stallone was great in it so deserves his nomination.



Hmm, pie.

anamme said:

If they really want to make changes at who and what is nominated, why not start with the many questionable choices and pity-nominations the Academy has doled out over the years.

Forrest Gump winning Best Picture over Pulp Fiction
Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture over Saving Private Ryan
Stanley Kubrick never winning anything, none of his films ever being nominated for Best Picture
Francis Ford Coppola not winning Best Director for The Godfather
Crash winning Best Picture over Brokeback Mountain and Munich

Those are the real tragedies. Fix the system, the rest will follow.

Forrest Gump is great, and perhaps I would say better than PF, but I'm no specialist so I won't discuss it. On the rest I do agree, even though never saw SK movies and several people have bad opinion of him the consensus is that he is genial. But as you put those are a lot more intriguing than no black person being nominated.

The Fury said:
This is turning weird. Lack of diversity? For directors, there are 2 american's, an aussie, irish and a mexican. That's pretty good diversity for an American awards ceremony.... sorry though, that isn't the kind of diversity they are looking for, is it? Yet I don't remember that many great performances from Black actors in the last year. I recently saw Creed, a great film, however lead actor Michael B Jordan was good but not great in it. Sly Stallone was great in it so deserves his nomination.

Sly is Rocky. No one can interpret Sly being Rocky =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

anamme said:

If they really want to make changes at who and what is nominated, why not start with the many questionable choices and pity-nominations the Academy has doled out over the years.

Forrest Gump winning Best Picture over Pulp Fiction
Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture over Saving Private Ryan
Stanley Kubrick never winning anything, none of his films ever being nominated for Best Picture
Francis Ford Coppola not winning Best Director for The Godfather
Crash winning Best Picture over Brokeback Mountain and Munich

Those are the real tragedies. Fix the system, the rest will follow.

 

Stanley Kubrick won an Oscar for best Special Effects on 2001: A Space Odyssey. Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, and Barry Lyndon were all nominated for Best Picture (though none of them won)

Coppola won Best Director for The Godfater Part II. Along with his 4 other awards for writing and producing I don't think he cares too much about losing to Cabaret.



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Boycott the BET awards, Latin Grammys, and all of these other awards shows, which offer a true lack of diversity. If we had a White entertainment awards program, there would be riots.



Wonktonodi said:
I disagree that your not knowing proves your point. She wasn't the first to be arrested for not giving up her seat. The boycott is part of what made Martin Luther King Jr. so well known and showed what the movement could do when they worked together. The boycott wasn't to keep the pressure, the boycott was the pressue.

In this case the "event" could be considered two years in a row of only white people being nominated for the acting roles, but indeed in this case for the boycott to be efective would either them getting people not to watch the show or not to watch movies the show being an easier target than movies since they would have a hard time getting peopel to agree what movies need to be boycotted to prove the point.

for an efective boycott of the show they need to have many more high profile people not show up to the awards ceremony,  even if they got changes in the nominating process, the issues go much further back when the movies are made to begin with, where there isn't diversity in the making of the movies and good acting roles as well as directing, aren't cast as diverse, so for all those who don't even get offered acting roles because of race, it is an econimic issue and the awards are only a symptom of the underlying issue, not the issue itself.

If you don't think it proves my point, then I suspect you haven't understood my point. The momentum for the civil rights movement was triggered by Rosa Parks' highly visible action (there were previous cases, but they didn't push those events due to relative "unsuitability" of the women involved). Boycotts require momentum, they don't create momentum.

What we have right now is some rich black people vowing to not attend a glitzy awards event. That's just not going to start any momentum for change. The "#OscarsSoWhite" hashtag itself (or whatever it's called) is a more effective movement (and that's not really saying much).

When I spoke of lack of economic relevance, what I was talking about was specifically the issue with the Oscars, not to the film industry in general. Think of it this way - a boycott of the bus system sends the message "deal with this, or you won't get our money". What, exactly, does the boycott of the Oscars say? "Deal with this, or... we won't attend your event"? They're trying to boycott a social situation (an event that they get to go to for free) rather than a market. And that just won't work.



Hmmm....(rummages in drawer)...now where did I put my box of Fucks? Oh, that's right, I'm all outta Fucks for Mr. and Mrs. Smith and their bullshit campaign.



Make your own award show. There are still some weeks without one, Platinum equality awards.
The oscars are mostly bought anyway.



Sixteenvolt420 said:
Boycott the BET awards, Latin Grammys, and all of these other awards shows, which offer a true lack of diversity. If we had a White entertainment awards program, there would be riots.

Shiiiiiiiu that can't be said... there is no prejudice against white folks.

ratchet426 said:
Hmmm....(rummages in drawer)...now where did I put my box of Fucks? Oh, that's right, I'm all outta Fucks for Mr. and Mrs. Smith and their bullshit campaign.

You sir, are totaly right



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."