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Platina said:
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What I don't really get is that if you can pay off your debts, why leave it?

Because paying off debt doesn't actually improve your situation in one way or the other.
The money you have is likely making you money, so interest is generally very small, especially in corporate examples like this, the agreement doesn't happen like it does for us measly citizens. Companies have clout.

Of course, sony has a very bad credit rating so is likely paying higher than most others. But even so, sometimes it's better to have money lying around than to give it to someone else.

If I owe someone 1,000 and I have to pay 30 dollars a year to have that 1k in my pocket. I will keep that 1k for as long as i can.

 

 

 





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Revenue is more important

Sony: ¥8.215 trillion which is US$ 70 billion
Nintendo: ¥549.780 billion
Microsoft: US$ 93.58 billion



SpokenTruth said:
theprof00 said:

You do know that debt is factored into liabilities right? It's not on top of it.



Short term debt is not.  Only long term debt is calculated in. 

I don't know who told you that.

Liabilities Accounts Payable 22.3B 6.1B 6.9B 5.2B
 
 
 
 
 
Short Term Debt 5.0B 2.6B 3.7B 17.5B
 
 
 
 
 
Accrued Expenses -- 11.7B 11.4B 11.5B
 
 
 
 
Other Current Liabilities 26.8B 36.3B 34.9B 16.0B
 
 
 
 
 
Other Liabilities 55.0B 45.9B 46.4B 39.6B
 
 
 
 
 
 
Total Liabilities Long Term Debt 9.3B 10.0B 8.9B 5.9B
 
 
 
 
 
Deferred Taxes -2.2B -2.8B -3.0B -3.0B
 
 
 
 
 
Other Liabilities 59.5B 59.4B 59.7B 55.9B
 
 
 
 
 
Total Liabilities 131.0B 122.5B 121.8B 107.6B  

 

 

Debt is a liability.
It is factored into total liabilities.

You could have just googled it before you said it.



kowenicki said:
Ruler said:
Revenue is more important

Sony: ¥8.215 trillion which is US$ 70 billion
Nintendo: ¥549.780 billion
Microsoft: US$ 93.58 billion

WTF! Seriously....

It really isn't.

Revenue alone tells you nothing.



it tells you everything 





kowenicki said:
Ruler said:
Revenue is more important

Sony: ¥8.215 trillion which is US$ 70 billion
Nintendo: ¥549.780 billion
Microsoft: US$ 93.58 billion

WTF! Seriously....

It really isn't.

Revenue alone tells you nothing.



lel

kowen take it easy.

Ruler, please believe me when I tell you that revenue is next to no importance at all. 
All it means is how much consumers have spent on your goods.

You can make a 5$ watch and sell it for 5,000
And someone can make a 10,000$ watch and sell it on sale for 5000 because he's liquidating and shutting down.

Revenue would only tell you that 2 people bought watches for 5,000$.

 





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SpokenTruth said:
theprof00 said:

You do know that debt is factored into liabilities right? It's not on top of it.



Short term debt is not.



 

Yes it is. It's right there

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/sne/financials/balance-sheet

Included in the "Total current liabilities"...



Sony is god, PS4 the saviour!!



Wouldn't we better be comparing only game divisions? (at least now, until Nintendo enters with the mobile market and movies and series and theme parks, etc)



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Pavolink said:
Wouldn't we better be comparing only game divisions? (at least now, until Nintendo enters with the mobile market and movies and series and theme parks, etc)

 


We don't have numbers for that.



theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:

WTF! Seriously....

It really isn't.

Revenue alone tells you nothing.



lel

kowen take it easy.

Ruler, please believe me when I tell you that revenue is next to no importance at all. 
All it means is how much consumers have spent on your goods.

You can make a 5$ watch and sell it for 5,000
And someone can make a 10,000$ watch and sell it on sale for 5000 because he's liquidating and shutting down.

Revenue would only tell you that 2 people bought watches for 5,000$.

 



 

kowenicki said:
Ruler said:

it tells you everything 



Really. How much was Sony revenue from 2012 to 2015?

Now.... how much money did they actually make? Profit?

 

Revenue is vanity.

Profit is sanity.

Cash is king.



tell that to GM now