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Would their be a Bayonetta 3 meltdown if exclusive to NX?

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Chazore on 20 January 2016
StokedUp said:

 

Haha, dude what are you typing there? Believe me mate I'm in no way fussed on a personal level whether that game is multiplat or NX exclusive, infact, the fact you even thought this and it entered your mind and made you reply clearly makes it look like you're the one with personal feelings on the matter. I'm just stating the fact that PG would be a bit crazy if they decided to make this an exclusive after the sales of the 2nd one, and how you can disagree is beyond me.

And yes you're right that the first didn't sell too well (but not bad) but it was a new IP and it was something slightly different so people wouldn't of wanted to take the risk. However after proving itself as a good game and becoming more known, the second one would of sold much better if maultiplat but PG missed this chance and risked that the wii U would sell like hot cakes just like the wii did and let them fund it, but as we know the opposite happened resulting in less market share for the game to sell well and losing out on sales.

Considering I don't own a Wii U but nejoyed Bayo 1 and plan on getting 2 once I get a WIi U and would look forward to a 3rd one, I don't think I'm the one who's upset here. WHat you state isn't really a fact but more or less your pov of things, just because I disagree you doesn't make me insane though, I just don't see how you are objectively right in the matter, especially when what you claim for Bayo could be claimed for liyerally every single game under the known sun but sure lets focus only on one franchise on one platform.

Yeah first one didn't sell well but not well enough to gurantee it would be on the other two current gen systems let alone enough for the lieks of MS or Sony to pocket the franchise themselves, at the end of the day that's all on them for not bothering to lift so much as a finger. If you think that a new IP should go stick to one place until it;s "proven" to be a good game then by all means give everyone a piece of that sweet cake, of course it's not going to happen from the other comeptitors either now is it?. Again there are still other "new" ip's that are on other systems that end up being exclusive either through moneyhats or funding, you're either all for it or all against it.

At the end of the day those who really wanted and loved the game will have bought it, those that didn't care or got over the meltdown will have moved on, the lost sales excuse can be used for practically any game that someone doesn't deem as "not selling well" and for any other system.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

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StokedUp on 20 January 2016
Chazore said:
StokedUp said:
 

 

Haha, dude what are you typing there? Believe me mate I'm in no way fussed on a personal level whether that game is multiplat or NX exclusive, infact, the fact you even thought this and it entered your mind and made you reply clearly makes it look like you're the one with personal feelings on the matter. I'm just stating the fact that PG would be a bit crazy if they decided to make this an exclusive after the sales of the 2nd one, and how you can disagree is beyond me.

And yes you're right that the first didn't sell too well (but not bad) but it was a new IP and it was something slightly different so people wouldn't of wanted to take the risk. However after proving itself as a good game and becoming more known, the second one would of sold much better if maultiplat but PG missed this chance and risked that the wii U would sell like hot cakes just like the wii did and let them fund it, but as we know the opposite happened resulting in less market share for the game to sell well and losing out on sales.

Considering I don't own a Wii U but nejoyed Bayo 1 and plan on getting 2 once I get a WIi U and would look forward to a 3rd one, I don't think I'm the one who's upset here. WHat you state isn't really a fact but more or less your pov of things, just because I disagree you doesn't make me insane though, I just don't see how you are objectively right in the matter, especially when what you claim for Bayo could be claimed for liyerally every single game under the known sun but sure lets focus only on one franchise on one platform.

Yeah first one didn't sell well but not well enough to gurantee it would be on the other two current gen systems let alone enough for the lieks of MS or Sony to pocket the franchise themselves, at the end of the day that's all on them for not bothering to lift so much as a finger. If you think that a new IP should go stick to one place until it;s "proven" to be a good game then by all means give everyone a piece of that sweet cake, of course it's not going to happen from the other comeptitors either now is it?. Again there are still other "new" ip's that are on other systems that end up being exclusive either through moneyhats or funding, you're either all for it or all against it.

At the end of the day those who really wanted and loved the game will have bought it, those that didn't care or got over the meltdown will have moved on, the lost sales excuse can be used for practically any game that someone doesn't deem as "not selling well" and for any other system.

 

You're right it is my POV, lol I never stated that it was a fact. My POV is that PG lost out on a lot more sales than they would of if bayo 2 was multiplat. I also understand my POV could be used for every other game that's exclusive, I know this and never tried to defend other exclusives, there's no doubt uncharted for example could increase its sales and profits by 50-70% by going multiplat so I can't understand why you've mentioned this twice as if I'm excluding those games, my argument is simply for the better of PG. you keep bringing up the other consoles ;Microsoft and Sony as if I'm trying fight there corner, I'm not doing that either. I'm simply saying I THINK pg potentially lost out on a lot more sales by making it exclusive and would be a bit crazy to do it again on a console that we don't know how well is going to sell, and you've also already got 2 other consoles on the market that make up 55 million gamers so that's 55 million more potential sales. Am I wrong?



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Chazore on 20 January 2016
StokedUp said:

You're right it is my POV, lol I never stated that it was a fact. My POV is that PG lost out on a lot more sales than they would of if bayo 2 was multiplat. I also understand my POV could be used for every other game that's exclusive, I know this and never tried to defend other exclusives, there's no doubt uncharted for example could increase its sales and profits by 50-70% by going multiplat so I can't understand why you've mentioned this twice as if I'm excluding those games, my argument is simply for the better of PG. you keep bringing up the other consoles ;Microsoft and Sony as if I'm trying fight there corner, I'm not doing that either. I'm simply saying I THINK pg potentially lost out on a lot more sales by making it exclusive and would be a bit crazy to do it again on a console that we don't know how well is going to sell, and you've also already got 2 other consoles on the market that make up 55 million gamers so that's 55 million more potential sales. Am I wrong?

Not entirely wrong but again we haven't seen those new or older IP's that are still exclusive going multiplat. I can't really remember you showing the same message you're telling me now, I mean from this point forward I'd now expect the same for all since you're telling me you're not defending any. Though to an end with that it's not like it's going to matter since what we say isn't going to sway the deals done/to be done unless we gather en mass which isn't all that likely to happen since the Bayo II meltdown didn't really change much. Also as an added market there is also PC to consider for sales so we can go with millions more.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Thunderbird77 on 20 January 2016
StokedUp said:

 

You're right it is my POV, lol I never stated that it was a fact. My POV is that PG lost out on a lot more sales than they would of if bayo 2 was multiplat. I also understand my POV could be used for every other game that's exclusive, I know this and never tried to defend other exclusives, there's no doubt uncharted for example could increase its sales and profits by 50-70% by going multiplat so I can't understand why you've mentioned this twice as if I'm excluding those games, my argument is simply for the better of PG. you keep bringing up the other consoles ;Microsoft and Sony as if I'm trying fight there corner, I'm not doing that either. I'm simply saying I THINK pg potentially lost out on a lot more sales by making it exclusive and would be a bit crazy to do it again on a console that we don't know how well is going to sell, and you've also already got 2 other consoles on the market that make up 55 million gamers so that's 55 million more potential sales. Am I wrong?

PG lost nothing and neither did Sega. The game would sell 0 copies as a non released multiplatform. Being exclusive allowed 1m+ potential sales and expanded the franchise.





potato_hamster on 20 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:
StokedUp said:

 

You're right it is my POV, lol I never stated that it was a fact. My POV is that PG lost out on a lot more sales than they would of if bayo 2 was multiplat. I also understand my POV could be used for every other game that's exclusive, I know this and never tried to defend other exclusives, there's no doubt uncharted for example could increase its sales and profits by 50-70% by going multiplat so I can't understand why you've mentioned this twice as if I'm excluding those games, my argument is simply for the better of PG. you keep bringing up the other consoles ;Microsoft and Sony as if I'm trying fight there corner, I'm not doing that either. I'm simply saying I THINK pg potentially lost out on a lot more sales by making it exclusive and would be a bit crazy to do it again on a console that we don't know how well is going to sell, and you've also already got 2 other consoles on the market that make up 55 million gamers so that's 55 million more potential sales. Am I wrong?

PG lost nothing and neither did Sega. The game would sell 0 copies as a non released multiplatform. Being exclusive allowed 1m+ potential sales and expanded the franchise.

It's almost as if you think making, marketing, and distributing video games doesn't cost any money...





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AZWification on 20 January 2016

Nah.. GTAVI exclusive announced as a NX exclusive would cause meltdowns however.



                
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Thunderbird77 on 20 January 2016
potato_hamster said:
Thunderbird77 said:

PG lost nothing and neither did Sega. The game would sell 0 copies as a non released multiplatform. Being exclusive allowed 1m+ potential sales and expanded the franchise.

It's almost as if you think making, marketing, and distributing video games doesn't cost any money...

It's almost as if you think nintendo didn't fund the game. PG developed it, making it the the same for them regardless of sales.





curl-6 on 20 January 2016
StokedUp said:

You're right it is my POV, lol I never stated that it was a fact. My POV is that PG lost out on a lot more sales than they would of if bayo 2 was multiplat. I also understand my POV could be used for every other game that's exclusive, I know this and never tried to defend other exclusives, there's no doubt uncharted for example could increase its sales and profits by 50-70% by going multiplat so I can't understand why you've mentioned this twice as if I'm excluding those games, my argument is simply for the better of PG. you keep bringing up the other consoles ;Microsoft and Sony as if I'm trying fight there corner, I'm not doing that either. I'm simply saying I THINK pg potentially lost out on a lot more sales by making it exclusive and would be a bit crazy to do it again on a console that we don't know how well is going to sell, and you've also already got 2 other consoles on the market that make up 55 million gamers so that's 55 million more potential sales. Am I wrong?

Here's the thing though; Platinum have said it wouldn't even have gotten made without Nintendo's intervention, so a multiplat release wasn't on the cards.



potato_hamster on 20 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:
potato_hamster said:

It's almost as if you think making, marketing, and distributing video games doesn't cost any money...

It's almost as if you think nintendo didn't fund the game. PG developed it, making it the the same for them regardless of sales.

It's almost as if you think PG doesn't also receive a percentage of the profit of the game. It's almost as if we don't know how much of the game Nintendo funded.

PG could have easily lost potential income.





hentai_11 on 21 January 2016
potato_hamster said:

It's almost as if you think PG doesn't also receive a percentage of the profit of the game. It's almost as if we don't know how much of the game Nintendo funded.

PG could have easily lost potential income.

Would Bayonetta 2 have sold more on PS and XBOX?  ... Sure it would have!

That's exactly the reason why Platinum asked Microsoft and Sony and probably some other publishers first. But they said no and so Nintendo funded it. And despite we don't know sure how much Nintendo funded, I bet they did a 100% funding. Which would explain this quote from Kamiya:

"As I have said earlier, if you want Bayonetta 2 on PS4 or Xbox One, how about trying to ask Nintendo… If Nintendo doesn’t say yes, it’s not going to happen… While you’re at it, try asking for Mario and Zelda too…"