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Pavolink said:
zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

Nintendo should push the Xenoblade series as one of their premiere exclusive franchises, to cultivate a more "core friendly" image.

 

Xenoblade+Metroid+Zelda as the holy Nintendo Adventure trifecta.

My dream.

 

ecause there is no competition.

 

 

Although the Wii U fanbase is very small it has a very solid hardcore.  They're not stupid and won't go out and by bombs like devil's third,  Amibo crossing etc but will support quality like splatoon,  mario etc.  

 

Not saying the sales are bad at all.  Just saying it helps when a good game releases to a hardcore audience with very few alternatives to buy. 



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Tlozjb said:
Metallox said:
It sold decently in the United States, I'm glad, although it seems like data from the game is weird.

The Volkampf Tyrant is the best way to calculate the game's sales (I'm sorry, VGChartz isn't). 290K people have beaten that boss in the West, and considering that X has maybe sold 220K copies in the States, either the internal data from the game is flawed, many people have beaten the boss while offline or it sold badly in Europe.

Nonetheless, the game is sitting right now at 400-450K units right now worldwide, which is better than nothing.

290k for the whole west seems a tad low, for it to be true,  it would mean it flopped badly in Germany and afterwards had no legs whatsoever, because from the little we know it sits at atleast 250k:

- USA = 200k+

- UK = 10k first week

- France = 40k in the first 12 days by what Nintendo France said

And that is without adding in Germany, other smaller markets, the missing days for UK and France, and digital, for all of that to only add 42k to overall number seems a tad low.  If anything, that 292k from the may very well be just for NA, because it is way to low for it to be NA + Europe.

From the NPD data we know that it sold more than 200K physical copies, excluding digital format. This means that American numbers should be sitting at 220K, more or less.

About the French numbers, we must remember that it's only shipped + digital. Maybe that quantity has already sold out, maybe not, perhaps that's the only print Nintendo Europe it's planning to distribute in France, I honestly don't know; although if anyone has more information about this, that would be appreciated, but I'm not counting those 40K units for sold to consumers' numbers. 

I don't know, I'm having the impression X could have tanked in Europe. 



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FunFan said:
bigtakilla said:

1 word:

Pokemon

And now you can add another one with:

Xenoblade

and 2 more with Fire Emblem (kind of)

and 2(4?) more with Mario RPG



Pokemon's highest selling entry has outsold all of the others highest selling entries combined. Their lowest selling entry in the main franchise has probably done the same to the others lowest selling in their main franchises combined.





bigtakilla said:

Pokemon's highest selling entry has outsold all of the others highest selling entries combined. Their lowest selling entry in the main franchise has probably done the same to the others lowest selling in their main franchises combined.

To be fair theres the handheld vs console dispute. But I guess that, after NX comes, it would not matter anymore. I'm assuming it won't, based on rumors and speculations.





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FunFan said:
bigtakilla said:

Pokemon's highest selling entry has outsold all of the others highest selling entries combined. Their lowest selling entry in the main franchise has probably done the same to the others lowest selling in their main franchises combined.

To be fair theres the handheld vs console dispute. But I guess that, after NX comes, it would not matter anymore. I'm assuming it won't, based on rumors and speculations.



EIther way, with its popularity it's still the first name that will pop up when you ask anyone about a jrpg.





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Yes, I agree that Nintendo definitely should make/publish more RPGs; they already have quite a few of them as it is, and has been discussed in this thread.

Regarding XCX, we need to remember that its a spiritual successor of a highly regarded game from the Wii, and it even shares most of its name with the previous game. I think that helped a lot.



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Can I just drop in here and say that the whole "no competition" argument is just kinda dumb? I think it is safe to say, given the dry spells, high sales of Xbone and PS4, and the trend of things for the last gen or two that most Wii U owners own a PC, PS4, or Xbone and therefore there's plenty of competition? I mean, I know console wars seem to be serious biz on the interwebz, but contrary to what that may have some believe, you don't have to sign away your rights to buying any other console whenever you buy a particular one.



Nuvendil said:
Can I just drop in here and say that the whole "no competition" argument is just kinda dumb? I think it is safe to say, given the dry spells, high sales of Xbone and PS4, and the trend of things for the last gen or two that most Wii U owners own a PC, PS4, or Xbone and therefore there's plenty of competition? I mean, I know console wars seem to be serious biz on the interwebz, but contrary to what that may have some believe, you don't have to sign away your rights to buying any other console whenever you buy a particular one.

.....

 

Well.

 

Shit.





Nuvendil said:
Can I just drop in here and say that the whole "no competition" argument is just kinda dumb? I think it is safe to say, given the dry spells, high sales of Xbone and PS4, and the trend of things for the last gen or two that most Wii U owners own a PC, PS4, or Xbone and therefore there's plenty of competition? I mean, I know console wars seem to be serious biz on the interwebz, but contrary to what that may have some believe, you don't have to sign away your rights to buying any other console whenever you buy a particular one.

 

That's a good point and one I definitely over looked.  However I think it's somewhere in between.  There is definitely a core of Nintendo fans who wouldn't touch the ps4 or x1 for whatever age old reason.  So I think we're both right. 



mjk45 said:
Tlozjb said:
Metallox said:
It sold decently in the United States, I'm glad, although it seems like data from the game is weird.

The Volkampf Tyrant is the best way to calculate the game's sales (I'm sorry, VGChartz isn't). 290K people have beaten that boss in the West, and considering that X has maybe sold 220K copies in the States, either the internal data from the game is flawed, many people have beaten the boss while offline or it sold badly in Europe.

Nonetheless, the game is sitting right now at 400-450K units right now worldwide, which is better than nothing.

290k for the whole west seems a tad low, for it to be true,  it would mean it flopped badly in Germany and afterwards had no legs whatsoever, because from the little we know it sits at atleast 250k:

- USA = 200k+

- UK = 10k first week

- France = 40k in the first 12 days by what Nintendo France said

And that is without adding in Germany, other smaller markets, the missing days for UK and France, and digital, for all of that to only add 42k to overall number seems a tad low.  If anything, that 292k from the may very well be just for NA, because it is way to low for it to be NA + Europe.

Hard to say , one way or the other , but if you go back through historic jrpgs sales in the west , European sales side is pretty poor and his has led to many games getting released a year or more late there and then it is quite often only because of a small niche publisher .



That is indeed true, but XCX isn't exactly what you would consider a typical JRPG, so the argument isn't exactly one that can be used, XCX doesn't look like your typical JRPG, if it weren't for it being done by Nintendo, you may aswell call it a WRPG.

Metallox said:
Tlozjb said:
Metallox said:
It sold decently in the United States, I'm glad, although it seems like data from the game is weird.

The Volkampf Tyrant is the best way to calculate the game's sales (I'm sorry, VGChartz isn't). 290K people have beaten that boss in the West, and considering that X has maybe sold 220K copies in the States, either the internal data from the game is flawed, many people have beaten the boss while offline or it sold badly in Europe.

Nonetheless, the game is sitting right now at 400-450K units right now worldwide, which is better than nothing.

290k for the whole west seems a tad low, for it to be true,  it would mean it flopped badly in Germany and afterwards had no legs whatsoever, because from the little we know it sits at atleast 250k:

- USA = 200k+

- UK = 10k first week

- France = 40k in the first 12 days by what Nintendo France said

And that is without adding in Germany, other smaller markets, the missing days for UK and France, and digital, for all of that to only add 42k to overall number seems a tad low.  If anything, that 292k from the may very well be just for NA, because it is way to low for it to be NA + Europe.

From the NPD data we know that it sold more than 200K physical copies, excluding digital format. This means that American numbers should be sitting at 220K, more or less.

About the French numbers, we must remember that it's only shipped + digital. Maybe that quantity has already sold out, maybe not, perhaps that's the only print Nintendo Europe it's planning to distribute in France, I honestly don't know; although if anyone has more information about this, that would be appreciated, but I'm not counting those 40K units for sold to consumers' numbers. 

I don't know, I'm having the impression X could have tanked in Europe. 


220k in USA alone, would pretty much suggest that the 292k are indeed from NA alone, since we would still be missing numbers from the following 16 days after the end of the December NPD tracking, Canada, and Mexico, which should complete the missing 72k with ease.  Well seeing how it is now at 293k, it is quite the slow rate of growth for it to be the whole west.

From my knowledge, from what I have seen here and GAF, whenever we get numbers from NoF, they are sold to consumer numbers, once we even getting weekly numbers for Animal Crossing New Leaf(http://nintendoeverything.com/more-nintendo-sales-numbers-from-france/), so from the knowledge we have, that 40k is sold to consumers in the first 12 days of sales.

Well it doesn't seem to be doing bad, from UK first week and France's first 12 days it already got 50k, and by VGC numbers that is already around 1/4 of what the original did on Wii, and with Germany, the smaller markets, and the following days of sales we don't have clear date for, the game could be anywhere between 120k - 200k in Europe, which is pretty good considering the install base of Wii U in Europe, and how the series is just starting to establish itself.  

Though the best way to know if the 293k is only for NA, is for someone with a European/PAL Wii U and a copy of the game to check the times the titan has been slayed, which would most surely present a smaller number than in NA, meaning hte 290k is indeed for NA alone.



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