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Sharpryno said:
Azuren said:
People can argue all they want about advantages and disadvantages.

Halo 5 sales were topped by a Remaster Collection.

Halo 5 bundle was $499

UCC bundle was $299.

You can stop trolling at anytime, sir.  Its not a big deal.  Yes Halo is on the decline, we all know this.  



You seem to be missing the point. 

 

Xbox's indomitable series, one many (including myself) thought would never topple, was outpaced by a Remaster Collection. After it had a one month head start. After months of hype.

 

This isn't "on the decline". This is a downfall. A numbered Halo title, for whatever reason, was beaten by a Remaster Collection. So again, argue the details all you want. The end result is the same in that Halo 5 couldn't beat a Remaster.





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Azuren said:
Sharpryno said:

Halo 5 bundle was $499

UCC bundle was $299.

You can stop trolling at anytime, sir.  Its not a big deal.  Yes Halo is on the decline, we all know this.  



You seem to be missing the point. 

 

Xbox's indomitable series, one many (including myself) thought would never topple, was outpaced by a Remaster Collection. After it had a one month head start. After months of hype.

 

This isn't "on the decline". This is a downfall. A numbered Halo title, for whatever reason, was beaten by a Remaster Collection. So again, argue the details all you want. The end result is the same in that Halo 5 couldn't beat a Remaster.



Are you really taking this seriously? I dont want to intervene here but Halo and Uncharted are two completely different games. Halo is Halo which competes with FPS games while the other is an Action 3rd peron game. Uncharted can go on to sell 10m units, that means nothing to Xbox or Halo because UC sales DO NOT EFFECT Xbox or Halo. Whats the point in claiming one has outsold the other?

Its a bundle, the way your thinking means that Wii Sports and Kinect Adventures are the greatest games of all time. They sold due to bundles aswell.

You could swap out NDC for Ryse and it will go on to outsell most games. I know you hate hearing that or ignore to believe it, but when a company gives away a game for free its clear it will have a higher sale rate to that which is being sold at a higher price.





Azzanation said:
AEGRO said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
A lot of people probably have moved on. Online communities on consoles are very short lived for most games. Calling it a wasteland though is just nonsense and weak bait.

The thread is 3 pages long and we are yet to see anything close to something relating to "the state of Xbox". All we see is a massively bundled game on the most popular console has slightly outsold Halo on a much less popular console.

 

I would like to see it renamed, "The State of Halo".

The Xbox One is doing fine sales-wise, but Halo being arguably the Biggest Franchise in Xbox History and The Mascot of the Brand, being outsold by a Collection of Ps3 Remastered Games is...not good, like at all.

There is so much wrong with your posts and its clear this is something you love doing. Maybe your looking at it the wrong way. How about looking at it as Halo 5 is doing pretty well considering the userbase of the console and that its keeping touch with Sonys best ever games they have ever made. The fact that Sony has to throw the game away is a statment to how good Halo really is considering its not a game worth throwing away just yet. Halo is the mascot of Xbox, Halo also increased its veneues by $400m on launch. Its the game gamers buy Xboxs for hence its attach rate is leaps better then NDC. There will be other Halo games to continue to boost the franchise. You cant always sell 10m units.

Stop acting as if Halo is a flop. It has sold over 3.4m units not including digital. The game has already made MS its money back and some.



according to Naughty Dog, actually you can sell a lot more on each game, never a Crash Bandicoot game, sold less than 7 Millions, and the last 3 games made by Naughty Dog, sold more than 6 Millions, The Last of Us, with the original and the Remaster, sold 10+ Millions, Install Base, have nothing to do with the Franchise, Final Fantasy XIII, sold more than 1.49 Millions first week on japan, for a Install base of over 2.5 Millions.

 

And we are not saying that Halo, is a Flop, but that Halo, is Microsoft's Biggest franchise and is being beaten by a Remaster, of a Game, that The main entries sold less than Halo,  Uncharted 1, sold much less than Halo 3,  less than 3 times, and now Uncharted Collection, is Out-selling Halo 5,  does not matter if it is bundled or not, Sony, is not forcing anyone to buy the game, even if 100% of Uncharted collection sales were because of the bundle, this is just 1/3 of what Playstation 4,  sold from october, to january, so what you have to say about the other Playstation 4 sold ?.

and Uncharted, is not even Sony's biggest franchise, and this game is just a Remaster, and this is why we are arguing here, is because a Remaster from Sony's 3th Biggest franchise is out-selling a Main game of Microsoft's biggest franchise, we are on a "Video Game Sales Tracking Forum", and you did not want to talk about Sales ?, is like Master Chieff Collection, out-selling a Main Pokemon game, and you want to deny that ?, we are not atacking Xbox, we are just saying that the numbers are incredible surprising, a Remaster of Uncharted, out-selling a Main game of Halo, when last gen had much more Xbox 360, on USA, than Playstation 3.

And this is just a Prelude of what is coming next, i Wanna bet that Uncharted 4, will break Halo 5's numbers on first, or second week, and continue to sell well all throught the year.





Im a little confused as to why a game sold in a bundle is lesser than a game sold on its own.

Because to me, this could easily suggest that the bundled game in question is what sold the console in the first place.

If we're in the business of moving goal posts, I'll go as far to say that the Uncharted collection was a system seller while Halo was not. There's more evidence supporting this than not, so...



LudicrousSpeed said:
A lot of people probably have moved on. Online communities on consoles are very short lived for most games. Calling it a wasteland though is just nonsense and weak bait.

The thread is 3 pages long and we are yet to see anything close to something relating to "the state of Xbox". All we see is a massively bundled game on the most popular console has slightly outsold Halo on a much less popular console.

Actually people that are Fan of Shooter games, did not move to other game very easy, just if the game dont have their friends playing, Call of Duty Black ops 2, had over a dozen Millions of Activer users nearly before the launch of Black Ops 3, so Online community on consoles seems to stay strong.





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LudicrousSpeed said:
A lot of people probably have moved on. Online communities on consoles are very short lived for most games. Calling it a wasteland though is just nonsense and weak bait.

The thread is 3 pages long and we are yet to see anything close to something relating to "the state of Xbox". All we see is a massively bundled game on the most popular console has slightly outsold Halo on a much less popular console.

 

From an alternative perspective, we see a collection of remasters outselling a new release in the flagship franchise of one of the wealthiest companies in the world. We also see this remaster collection doing so with a brand new ps4 attached to that sale. Perhaps one is a system seller while the other, not so much.



On one last note install base is entirely irrelevant when the majority of the NDC is sold with a new console. That arguement doesn't hold water



Swordmasterman said:
Azzanation said:
AEGRO said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
A lot of people probably have moved on. Online communities on consoles are very short lived for most games. Calling it a wasteland though is just nonsense and weak bait.

The thread is 3 pages long and we are yet to see anything close to something relating to "the state of Xbox". All we see is a massively bundled game on the most popular console has slightly outsold Halo on a much less popular console.

 

I would like to see it renamed, "The State of Halo".

The Xbox One is doing fine sales-wise, but Halo being arguably the Biggest Franchise in Xbox History and The Mascot of the Brand, being outsold by a Collection of Ps3 Remastered Games is...not good, like at all.

There is so much wrong with your posts and its clear this is something you love doing. Maybe your looking at it the wrong way. How about looking at it as Halo 5 is doing pretty well considering the userbase of the console and that its keeping touch with Sonys best ever games they have ever made. The fact that Sony has to throw the game away is a statment to how good Halo really is considering its not a game worth throwing away just yet. Halo is the mascot of Xbox, Halo also increased its veneues by $400m on launch. Its the game gamers buy Xboxs for hence its attach rate is leaps better then NDC. There will be other Halo games to continue to boost the franchise. You cant always sell 10m units.

Stop acting as if Halo is a flop. It has sold over 3.4m units not including digital. The game has already made MS its money back and some.



according to Naughty Dog, actually you can sell a lot more on each game, never a Crash Bandicoot game, sold less than 7 Millions, and the last 3 games made by Naughty Dog, sold more than 6 Millions, The Last of Us, with the original and the Remaster, sold 10+ Millions, Install Base, have nothing to do with the Franchise, Final Fantasy XIII, sold more than 1.49 Millions first week on japan, for a Install base of over 2.5 Millions.

 

And we are not saying that Halo, is a Flop, but that Halo, is Microsoft's Biggest franchise and is being beaten by a Remaster, of a Game, that The main entries sold less than Halo,  Uncharted 1, sold much less than Halo 3,  less than 3 times, and now Uncharted Collection, is Out-selling Halo 5,  does not matter if it is bundled or not, Sony, is not forcing anyone to buy the game, even if 100% of Uncharted collection sales were because of the bundle, this is just 1/3 of what Playstation 4,  sold from october, to january, so what you have to say about the other Playstation 4 sold ?.

and Uncharted, is not even Sony's biggest franchise, and this game is just a Remaster, and this is why we are arguing here, is because a Remaster from Sony's 3th Biggest franchise is out-selling a Main game of Microsoft's biggest franchise, we are on a "Video Game Sales Tracking Forum", and you did not want to talk about Sales ?, is like Master Chieff Collection, out-selling a Main Pokemon game, and you want to deny that ?, we are not atacking Xbox, we are just saying that the numbers are incredible surprising, a Remaster of Uncharted, out-selling a Main game of Halo, when last gen had much more Xbox 360, on USA, than Playstation 3.

And this is just a Prelude of what is coming next, i Wanna bet that Uncharted 4, will break Halo 5's numbers on first, or second week, and continue to sell well all throught the year.



                               

Your missing the point. Comparing sales is one thing, but this comparison isnt even the same.

Lets look at it this way. We all know the PS4 is selling like hotcake regardless of the games it has, theres no denying it. Would NDC outsell Halo 5 if it wasnt bundled and if the install base was the same? Thats a fair comparison. Thats like you saying Mario is in decline because Mario 3D World only sold 4m on the WiiU. How stupid does that sound.

Considering NDC Bundle is the cheapest of the lot, are gamers buying it becasue of NDC or the fact its a cheap PS4 purchase. Halo 5 is selling like a good game would. It doesnt have to beat anything to prove its selling well. That goes with all games. I am not sure what is Sonys biggest game to you but Uncharted is the icon of playstation just like Halo is for Xbox and there both selling about the same and one isnt heavly bundles and is also sold on a console with a bad rep and half the install base.



aLkaLiNE said:
On one last note install base is entirely irrelevant when the majority of the NDC is sold with a new console. That arguement doesn't hold water

I didnt think of that. You have a great point right here.





Your missing the point. Comparing sales is one thing, but this comparison isnt even the same.

Lets look at it this way. We all know the PS4 is selling like hotcake regardless of the games it has, theres no denying it. Would NDC outsell Halo 5 if it wasnt bundled and if the install base was the same? Thats a fair comparison. Thats like you saying Mario is in decline because Mario 3D World only sold 4m on the WiiU. How stupid does that sound.

Considering NDC Bundle is the cheapest of the lot, are gamers buying it becasue of NDC or the fact its a cheap PS4 purchase. Halo 5 is selling like a good game would. It doesnt have to beat anything to prove its selling well. That goes with all games. I am not sure what is Sonys biggest game to you but Uncharted is the icon of playstation just like Halo is for Xbox and there both selling about the same and one isnt heavly bundles and is also sold on a console with a bad rep and half the install base.

Halo 5 is selling *sold* like a good game would.

The game is barely on the TOP 100 of Amazon, i dont see it breaking the Top 10 unless it is massively discounted, at least 70% Off.