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Norris2k said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I was more thinking of the perspective of a 日本語の人 learning english. Not a person with a roman/german native tongue :) 



In this perspective I agree. It's very hard for Japanese people to get spelling and pronounciation. I even have the impression that a lot of Japanese can't see a mispel, something similar to dislexia, perhaps because they are used to these big blocks of strokes surrounded by hiragana/katakana.



 

It's like how a lot of them find writing complex Kanji difficult even though they can recognize them in an instant. I suffer from the same issue, it's more of seeing something as a whole rather than the sum of it's parts.

We hvae a smiliarn tihng in Egnilsh for emaxple.



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

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theDX said:

日本に住んで漢字が書けないの様子はちょっと悲しい


But I'm really happy to read quickly the 50 mails I get everydays in Japanese, read 100 page long documentations, write mails, being able to talk with a massive vocabulary, avoid misunderstanding.

The last time I needed to write something in Japanese was my name and address for my checkin 2 weeks ago. Before that, I think it was writing my name and address for the administration. And before that, my name and address for a delivery. It happens once a month. My name, and my address.

To add my contribution to the topic, a few site I use a lot:

Google picture !


Because words are not just a translation, especially from/to very different languages. Don't just watch it 3 seconds and say "I got it", feel it, absorb it, because there is a meaning in words that a translation or definition can't give you. That's also a very good way to learn, because it has more impact than a list of words.

Search for God and then for 神様 God is art, magnificient, he lives in cloud, and he has a bear. Kamisama are pluriform, indian gods, egyptian gods,  and a collection of funny grand'pa, it's a joke.
おしゃれ (oshare) means elegant, it's hard to translate to something else. But compare elegant people to おしゃれな人 Elegant people are in a formal dress or suit, something expensive, classic. Oshare is modern, urban, a patchwork of styles.
For example, you said 悲しい which translate to sad, but look at it, You'll see dead people, people in pain, because if not used in a joke, it means sad to the point you cry.

Goo dictionary

The point is to be able to copy/paste words and get a definition in Japanese. After a few effort, you will learn not just words, but also the words that define this words, so it's a very simple way to extend your vocabulary. Also, it gives you this dictionary's style "simple, explicit explanation" that helps a lot to explain what word you don't know, or what you are trying to say.

Kindle

It depends of the books, if it really is text, or picture copy of a book, but in most case it's text. So with the integrated dictionary, you can get a very quick understanding. It's like firefox+rikaichan but for books, and it really helps a lot, because paper books are a very big step.

Wikipedia

Wikipedia is a goldmine for simple, clear and short texts in any genre. Also, you can switch to your mother language and have a clear understanding of the content. I spent hours on "programming", "java", "web", "computer", and I quickly get a massive vocabulary and understanding of my area of work. It's not just about knowing words, it's about getting used to explain something in a clear and simple way.



VGPolyglot said:
RingoGaSuki said:

Songs, Movies, TV Shows:
On the web, look mainly on DailyMotion and Youku


There's Japanese videos on Youku? I thought that it was a Chinese site?

i Mainly see japanese videos on Nico Nico.





PerturbedKitty said:
RingoGaSuki said:

I'd highly recommend KanjiDamage (link in the first post), breaks down the Kanji into their radicals and makes them like an alphabet and so very easy to remember. Does it all humorously too, so that's even better! :)



the best books that can be used for learning japanese grammar are the genki series. there are 2 of them. part 1 is orange and part 2 is green. they start at a level where you do not need to know any japanese at all. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENKI-An-Integrated-Course-in-Elementary-Japanese-Textbook-1-w-CD-2nd-edition-FS-/111870523332?hash=item1a0c00b7c4:g:CP8AAOSwaA5Wkc-u

that is an ebay listing for the first book. i would really encourage anybody who is serious about learning japanese to follow these books guidelines. they are excellent. they come with a CD with drills for each lesson.



Great! I managed to get them, and they're very accessible and everything is well explained. I think I must learn Hiragana and Katakana first, since I think they're the basics to starting to write and learn Japanese. Is there any accesible way to learn how to write them? I mean, a non-memoristic style of learning them. 





Volterra_90 said:

Great! I managed to get them, and they're very accessible and everything is well explained. I think I must learn Hiragana and Katakana first, since I think they're the basics to starting to write and learn Japanese. Is there any accesible way to learn how to write them? I mean, a non-memoristic style of learning them. 

I'd recommned Anki for this, there's a lot of hiragana/katakana decks out there. You could even just start learning how to read and write words if you wanted to speed along the process a little. Download a basic words deck for Anki or do the basics in Memrise and read the word, write it down a few times and you'll remember the characters rather quickly. If that sounds too stressful, then limit yourself to 5-10 new characters a day, and every week you'll be learning 35-70 characters! It seems daunting at first, but trust me, it gets a lot easier once you start.



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RingoGaSuki said:
Volterra_90 said:

Great! I managed to get them, and they're very accessible and everything is well explained. I think I must learn Hiragana and Katakana first, since I think they're the basics to starting to write and learn Japanese. Is there any accesible way to learn how to write them? I mean, a non-memoristic style of learning them. 

I'd recommned Anki for this, there's a lot of hiragana/katakana decks out there. You could even just start learning how to read and write words if you wanted to speed along the process a little. Download a basic words deck for Anki or do the basics in Memrise and read the word, write it down a few times and you'll remember the characters rather quickly. If that sounds too stressful, then limit yourself to 5-10 new characters a day, and every week you'll be learning 35-70 characters! It seems daunting at first, but trust me, it gets a lot easier once you start.

 

http://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projects/genki/hiragana-timer.html

http://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projects/genki/katakana-timer.html

This helped me practice a lot! I learned hiragana in 1 day using this and a normal chart. I'd do the ones I remembered and try learn 1 or 2 and try it again, and repeat. It may be specific for me it working so well but it'd be interesting to see if it helps others.



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

わたしのにほんごがじょうずじゃない

すこしかんじをおぼえるから、よくよまない

ショートフォームがじょうずになりたい

Will definitely need help with sentence correcting so hopefully somebody can help me out in this thread!



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Will definitely like to improve my japanese. よろしくお願いします!
I have some books that help me along the way:
- Japanese in Mangaland 1,2,3... as we know manga is very much likely the reason we all start studying this language (I do), these books present grammar and japanese culture in manga making it simple to understand.
- Japanese demistifyed.. the japanses for dummies version, very easy to understand explaining when to use each particle
- Remembering the Kanji, one of the best Kanji remembering method book I've read.. it helps you understand the kanji you are writing so you'll never forget.

Practice makes perfection, will try to interact more often in this topic. 日本語を頑張ろう!



Platina said:
わたしのにほんごがじょうずじゃない

すこしかんじをおぼえるから、よくよまない

ショートフォームがじょうずになりたい

Will definitely need help with sentence correcting so hopefully somebody can help me out in this thread!

Is my help not enough for you? ;_;



 

              

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Cloudman said:
Platina said:
わたしのにほんごがじょうずじゃない

すこしかんじをおぼえるから、よくよまない

ショートフォームがじょうずになりたい

Will definitely need help with sentence correcting so hopefully somebody can help me out in this thread!

Is my help not enough for you? ;_;

Can't only be relying on my rival, yunno... :p

たすけて!



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