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Forums - Gaming - PS4 vs XB1 in 2016? Voting: PS4 wins 6:1

 

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PS4 798 84.18%
 
XB1 150 15.82%
 
Total:948
CosmicSex said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Windows 10 and Xbox one I'm counting as exclusive. If I buy one on the Xbox One, I also own it on my Windows 10 etc... They are now the same and this is splitting hairs. MS owns both and should be seen as an exclusive.

 


That doesn't make sense because Microsoft doesn't collect platform fees. It's an open platform.  Not sure how else to explain this. I can make a PC game for PC and I don't have to pay Microsoft a damn thing. Xbox does have platform fees and thus is a different platform.  Also every game on Xbox is not available on PC and vice versa.  

When developers list platforms for their game they differentiate between PC and console. 

It benefits windows as a whole, simple as that. It adds to people wanting windows. this benefits them greatly as it's their biggest profit sector.





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I vote Xbox One to balance the odds a little bit.



DJEVOLVE said:
CosmicSex said:

 


That doesn't make sense because Microsoft doesn't collect platform fees. It's an open platform.  Not sure how else to explain this. I can make a PC game for PC and I don't have to pay Microsoft a damn thing. Xbox does have platform fees and thus is a different platform.  Also every game on Xbox is not available on PC and vice versa.  

When developers list platforms for their game they differentiate between PC and console. 

It benefits windows as a whole, simple as that. It adds to people wanting windows. this benefits them greatly as it's their biggest profit sector.



 

Which may be the case,  but it doesn't change the fact that PC is a different platform from Xbox. We don't say Star Citizen or any other PC game is under the Xbox fold. Games are cheaper on PC for a reasons. One of which is that developers and publishers don't give Microsoft a platform cut like on Xbox. 

Of course it's beneficial to Microsoft. OP said Xbox vs PS4 not PS4 vs everything that involves Microsoft. 



DJEVOLVE said:
Shiken said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Windows 10 and Xbox one I'm counting as exclusive. If I buy one on the Xbox One, I also own it on my Windows 10 etc... They are now the same and this is splitting hairs. MS owns both and should be seen as an exclusive.

 

Cool now I shall include PSNow and PS Vue on the Playstation side.  Sony owns both of these and if you have it on PS4 you have it on all other compatible devices, and vice versa.

 

See what I did there?  You are really reaching with that argument, but it works both ways so whatever helps you sleep at night.  =P

none of this keeps me up. Does it you? I'm really sorry if it does. seems most live to trash Xbox and that's it. So you name a TV Service and Psnow is all games from the past, not new games. You are just rambling on, i see you can't handle the truth and it's keeping you up at night. "Another night with no sleep, damn Xbox has one up my me, MEH!" must got to threads and downplay..

 

P.S. why is your friends Xbox One account in your sig?

 


I can have windows 10 on PC without an X1, therefore my point is that it is just as irrelevant as streaming games from the past and a TV service.  Im sorry that a lack of exclusive games on X1 bothers so much that you have to reach that far.  Just enjoy what you have, no need to mention something as irrelevant as Win 10.  It is nice, but unnecessary just like PS Now and PSVue.

 

PS:  I am actually the only one of my friends that have an X1, so nice try.  As you can see I only play exclusives on it because as everyone knows PS4 is the better gaming machine.  I have all 3 therefore only speak facts.  PS4 is the better gaming platform, X1 is the better multimedia device.  Sorry if that made you feel the need to try to discredit me, but you pretty much just made yourself look petty by even trying.  ;)



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DJEVOLVE said:
Windows 10 and Xbox one I'm counting as exclusive. If I buy one on the Xbox One, I also own it on my Windows 10 etc... They are now the same and this is splitting hairs. MS owns both and should be seen as an exclusive.

No, because I don't have to have an Xbox to buy it. It's console/timed exclusive, not true exclusive. 





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Ni-Oh, No Man's Sky, Tales of Berseria, Star Ocean 5, The Last Guardian, Horizon: Zero Dawn... That's three that I can only get on PS4.

Fable Legends, ReCore, Sea of Thieves... I can play those all on my PC.

Nine titles, 3 reasons to have a PS4, zero to have an XB1.



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Actually these are the rules we are playing by, I stated it before and who gets to make the rules? This biased site. C'mon, I took over long ago. See I'm a veteran and have seniority.  Windows 10 and Xbox One are Exclusive games, Splitting hairs is really just that and anyone on the outside world see's it this way to. Oh PS4 doesn't have it and it's on all current MS products, yes. Exclusive.

I'm out. PC and XB1 or PS4 and PC, they have exactly the same value to you as the consumer who wants to buy a game that looks interesting. When it comes to the ability to physically play the game and where that is possible. That one is all Microsoft, doesn't make any difference if you own one of the little black boxes needed. You can't play games that are only available on XB1 but just owning an PC and visa versa. The console, whatever that may be, and Windows 10 are equally as separate when it comes to the exclusivity. That's what you would see from the outside world, the opposite of splitting hairs and a big obvious fact that you are trying very hard to make go away. I know why you're doing it, but to me it just seems pointless. I totally agree that a 'Microsoft exclusive' is a thing and because of the reasons spelled out above, that means literally nothing in a versus between the two consoles, and in a much wider sense.

When it comes to 'making rules', I should have made myself clearer I meant: "Sony has never owned those platforms. The facts haven't changed they have always been the same. And those aren't the rules we are playing by anyway." I feel the fact I used of 'rules' instead of 'facts' in the second sentence may have lead to some confusion of your part, and that was entirely my fault. You can't set a rule that goes against a fact, and hope to accomplish anything. I tell you all this as a back handed apology because when I read "See I'm a veteran and have seniority." I may have laughed, and shown some other people who frequent forums (there's not a lot to do here late on a Friday as you can see my how much i've typed) Obviously this is all in the public domain anyway and you typed it, but you may find that a little mean. So I guess, my thread, please don't be disruptive by trying to make anyone do anything. You can't, we don't have to, and I won't. As you can see. Feel free to make your own thread with any arbitrary rules you want.

 Now that all may have been pointless (A) but it may not have been (B), which is why i'm not going to check back for an answer because i'd rather be in limbo than disappointed. Option A is that you know what i'm saying true but for some strange reason you have allegiance to a giant company and feel the need to defend it, or rather attack on it's behalf. This is because you want to convince others or more worryingly yourself and that you are right no matter what, which is you own problem and i'm not going anywhere near it. But either way none of this is anything new and you should definitely stop. Option B is that you owe me one because you've genuinely fallen for believing that 'Microsoft Exclusive' means something it clearly doesn't, it's pretty obvious too if you stop to think about it for a second and ignore their marketing department. Even if only nudged you in the right way towards a quiet realisation, I hope these two paragraphs have been worth it. 




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DJEVOLVE said:
flint said:
DJEVOLVE said:
flint said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Windows 10 and Xbox one I'm counting as exclusive. If I buy one on the Xbox One, I also own it on my Windows 10 etc... They are now the same and this is splitting hairs. MS owns both and should be seen as an exclusive.

If you want you can buy any of those games on a PC without owning an XB1. The cross buy is great, but not strictly relevant. You can buy any of the PS4 console exclusives without owning a PS4. In this old fashioned console showdown, so same thing. Also this is PS4 vs XB1 not Sony vs Microsoft etc etc. So in short, no, please don't try to spin things here. Either to convince yourself or others.

 


I'm stating it and yes it is now fact. Sony doesn't own window 10 nor any windows. The rules have changed, if you can't accept that, than don't make these threads to split peas.

 

Sony has never owned those platforms. The rules haven't changed they have always been the same. And those aren't the rules we are playing by anyway.

 


Actually these are the rules we are playing by, I stated it before and who gets to make the rules? This biased site. C'mon, I took over long ago. See I'm a veteran and have seniority.  Windows 10 and Xbox One are Exclusive games, Splitting hairs is really just that and anyone on the outside world see's it this way to. Oh PS4 doesn't have it and it's on all current MS products, yes. Exclusive.

Good lord, stop posting. If you want to bring PC into the debate for XB1, then it comes in for PS4, too. That's not biased, that's fair. This is not your thread, you don't make up the rules. If you want to make your own "Xbox is better because" thread, then do so. Otherwise, Flint is attempting an unbiased comparison of what each console can do by themselves. That's what his thread is for, so get with the program or stop posting in his thread. 





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Actually these are the rules we are playing by, I stated it before and who gets to make the rules? This biased site. C'mon, I took over long ago. See I'm a veteran and have seniority.  Windows 10 and Xbox One are Exclusive games, Splitting hairs is really just that and anyone on the outside world see's it this way to. Oh PS4 doesn't have it and it's on all current MS products, yes. Exclusive.

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Azuren said:
DJEVOLVE said:

 


Actually these are the rules we are playing by, I stated it before and who gets to make the rules? This biased site. C'mon, I took over long ago. See I'm a veteran and have seniority.  Windows 10 and Xbox One are Exclusive games, Splitting hairs is really just that and anyone on the outside world see's it this way to. Oh PS4 doesn't have it and it's on all current MS products, yes. Exclusive.

Good lord, stop posting. If you want to bring PC into the debate for XB1, then it comes in for PS4, too. That's not biased, that's fair. This is not your thread, you don't make up the rules. If you want to make your own "Xbox is better because" thread, then do so. Otherwise, Flint is attempting an unbiased comparison of what each console can do by themselves. That's what his thread is for, so get with the program or stop posting in his thread. 



So, This guy say that a PC/XBOX One, is a Xbox Exclusive, so i can say that the Games that Sony, made for Pc, like DC Universe, Planet Side, Ever Quest, And all the Games exclusive for Samsung TV (there are More Samsung Tv, out there than Windows 10), as a "Sony Exclusive" ?, this is Really Sad, now when you make a Game for PC/Console, and you Own a Store on the OS, now the Game became "Exclusive", so Portal, and Half-life 2, are "Valve Exclusives" ?.

 

I Will tell you a Secret my Dear, the Windows is a Open Souce OS, this Means that you Can make any Stupid APP, to it and Microsoft, will not Take 1 Coin from it, Microsoft, dont receive Nothing for Steam Sales (just if is a Publisher), dont get nothing from Youtube, from Google, from Facebook, from Twiter, from Twich (Google Purchased it Right ?), They do this to Sell more OS, and for the People give more Suport for OS, so more people will use Microsoft Visual Studios, and so on, However, the "Windows Store" is a Store Managed and Supported by Microsoft, so they have the Right to make Money from it because they are who Sell everything there Inside the Law, but you Can sell it on Windows, and for Windows, out-side those Store and Microsoft, will never receive a Coin.

 

Got it ?, Microsoft, dont Own Pc, and Neither get Anything Sold on Windows out-side Windows Store,  if they would Tax the people for make App for Windows, they would stop of Doing this, also Microsoft's Profit, only with League of Legends, World of War Craft, Counter Strike, Dota, and Guild Wars, would be Much Bigger than it is Today, Just League of Legends, and World of Warcraft, made Billions and Billions per Year.

 

So saying that the Xbox One/PC games are "Microsoft Exclusive", or "Windows Exclusive", and use it as a "Xbox One Exclusive", Like if Everyone that Owns a Xbox, play on Pc.

 

You Know how much they Used the Xbox Streaming for Pc ?, Since the Launch on June/July, were just used for over 6.6 Millions of Hours, this is a Avarege Worse than 4 Seconds per Day, and this is a Free Service that Work even with a Toaster, and after Half a Year, the Total Time Spended in this Service is less than 20 Minutes, after 6 Months the Xbox One Users Spended just 20 Minutes on the Total Time Spended in this Service, this Means that Who Owns a Xbox One, dont Like to Play on PC, and the Majority of the People who Purchased the Console are Thanks the Goddess, Console Gamers.

 

and Then Microsoft, came here on Brazil, and Phill Spencer Says "Our Best Xbox One Users are the ones that Also Play our Games on Pc", and i was Like "WTF Microsoft, so i a Lover of the Console Market, i Who Spend Money on your Console that is not Selling so much, I'm Less Important than Who Play your Games on Pc ?", so with this Thing of Streaming for Pc Being a Complete Failure, and Show for us that the Xbox One Users are Console Gamers, Microsoft's PR, are Now Hurting their Own Users.