Lawlight said: Yeah, why did they send Rey to meet with Luke? That made no sense at all. Abrams wanted her to do everything of importance in this movie. I didn't like Finn either - his motivations were weak and he had zero character development. |
I liked Finn. But, I will agree he was rushed, too. He just starts in a battle, sees someone die on his side, and regrets being on the NO's side. They could have had a quick scene of him talking to his buddy, who maybe was talking to him about the Rebellion and feeling sorry for them. Finn, not having fought in a battle, yet, can't see how his friend could pity them. Then, the battle/massacre scene plays out the same. Wouldn't have felt as rushed.
walsufnir said:
4. The Nazi Scene.
How bad was this, actually? I mean, it's nice to talk in pictures but this was so obvious and in the face... Well, mass appeal and to make it understand for everyone.
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Completely agree. LOTR did a similar scene much better and wasn't as on the nose. This just seems like it was put in there to make the NO seem even more evil, and overall, served no point. Almost cartoonish. Especially since we have never seen anything like this in SW, even though the Empire were involved in large battles, as well.
The Fury said:
I was so confused when all that started coming up. So Empire was defeated and a New Republic was established but then a new 'Evil' organisation existed and the 'Resistance' was the only one opposing it? Something seems off.
The idea of how things work in a political setting is that in order for a 'resistance' to exist they would have to oppose a political power who were in charge. The First Order aren't in charge... they are essentially the 'rebel' group. The Resistance and Republic would be on the same side here, well technically there resistance wouldn't exist at all. Not only that, The First Order just destroyed the political centre of the Republic and that Republic probably had representation and important people on it from every represented system in the galaxy. They took out a few planets and just made an enemy of every system in the galaxy, if they weren't already. It wouldn't only be the Resistance responding with force, it would be everyone.
The film was entertaining but in my view full of plot holes because it was trying to fill it with 'nostalgia' instead of creating somethign fresh set in the Star Wars universe.
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Yes, I think it would have been much better to have Kylo Ren the main villian. Forget Snoke. Have him rebuilding the Empire, which would make him a resistance against the New Republic, who is now on the side of the Old Rebellion. It would also make more sense to have the Starkiller (which could have been abandonned by the Empire in favor of the mobile Death Star) in the last movie, where the Republic would be sending more troops to help defeat the NO. And the NO would be getting larger and larger throughout the other two movies, finally getting the Starkiller in operational order and using it against the Republic. The Rebellion and New Republic sends all of their troops to defeat the vast majority of the NO, who are stationed on the Starkiller.
They played the Starkiller, or at least its destruction, way too early. What are they going to do for the final film? "Oh, we just happened to have another bigger, better Starkiller." Talk about really pulling from the OG SW trilogy.