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StreaK said:
S.Peelman said:

It's upped to 890m worldwide now on BoxOfficeMojo and they're estimating a 178m second weekend, domestic, while the current record for second weekend is 106m by Jurassic World... They're saying Jurassic World needed 24 days to break 550m domestic, while Star Wars will do it in just 10 days... Completely insane. I'd say a billion domestic is a given, Avatar will be left in the dust. It's up to international now and I'm curious about it's China performance in two weeks.

 

Doesn't change the fact that the two films that were able to break both the 1 billion and 2 billion barrier were both Cameron films. And two films that did NOT have an established franchise to back them up. Now THAT is impressive to me! Of course Star Wars is going to do well with its gimmicks and years of history and fanbase.

Also, let's not forget the other sequels have no chance at beating the first in the trilogy as evidenced by the first trilogy and second trilogy (prequels). The first movie ALWAYS does significantly the best. So the sequel, no matter how good, will do 300-400 million less at least.

If Titanic released TODAY with 3D, it would have made 2 billion in the domestic boxoffice. Adjusted for inflation, it already broke the 1 billion dollar barrier domestically. It has like over $4 billion worldwide even.

Why are you telling me this? I fail to see the relevance in the context of my (outdated) post.





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StreaK said:

Doesn't change the fact that the two films that were able to break both the 1 billion and 2 billion barrier were both Cameron films. And two films that did NOT have an established franchise to back them up. Now THAT is impressive to me! Of course Star Wars is going to do well with its gimmicks and years of history and fanbase.

Also, let's not forget the other sequels have no chance at beating the first in the trilogy as evidenced by the first trilogy and second trilogy (prequels). The first movie ALWAYS does significantly the best. So the sequel, no matter how good, will do 300-400 million less at least.

If Titanic released TODAY with 3D, it would have made 2 billion in the domestic boxoffice. Adjusted for inflation, it already broke the 1 billion dollar barrier domestically. It has like over $4 billion worldwide even.

Haha, this is too funny. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. If Titanic released today , it would do 2 billion domestic boxoffice? I'm baffled. What if I told you it wouldn't even do 25% of that figure? You know why? Because this is 2015-2016, and back when Titanic released it was , by far, the most ambitious project to date. It was filmed at a scale never before seen in the theatre. Nowadays a film like Titanic wouldn't amount to much impact in the world.

People should think twice before extrapolating numbers using logic like ' inflation proves this movie would do x more if it released today'. It's almost as bad as spam.





Mordred11 said:
StreaK said:

Doesn't change the fact that the two films that were able to break both the 1 billion and 2 billion barrier were both Cameron films. And two films that did NOT have an established franchise to back them up. Now THAT is impressive to me! Of course Star Wars is going to do well with its gimmicks and years of history and fanbase.

Also, let's not forget the other sequels have no chance at beating the first in the trilogy as evidenced by the first trilogy and second trilogy (prequels). The first movie ALWAYS does significantly the best. So the sequel, no matter how good, will do 300-400 million less at least.

If Titanic released TODAY with 3D, it would have made 2 billion in the domestic boxoffice. Adjusted for inflation, it already broke the 1 billion dollar barrier domestically. It has like over $4 billion worldwide even.

Haha, this is too funny. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. If Titanic released today , it would do 2 billion domestic boxoffice? I'm baffled. What if I told you it wouldn't even do 25% of that figure? You know why? Because this is 2015-2016, and back when Titanic released it was , by far, the most ambitious project to date. It was filmed at a scale never before seen in the theatre. Nowadays a film like Titanic wouldn't amount to much impact in the world.

People should think twice before extrapolating numbers using logic like ' inflation proves this movie would do x more if it released today'. It's almost as bad as spam.



 There's also the fact that Leo DiCaprio hysteria was at its height during the release of that film, and thousands/millions of teenage girls drove a lot of that box office.  Granted I think it could still achieve 50% of its box office, since it's still a decent flick.





StreaK said:
mornelithe said:

Avatar was the best Dances with Wolves ripoff ever filmed in a cubicle. 



 

I assure you that Star Wars has ripped something off. Fortunately for you, most people are not aware of this. Sure is easy to say it is a Dances with Wolves ripoff when so many other films have also used this motif. I'd say The Last Samurai is a more ripoff of that film because it has the main lead narrate almost exactly like the guy from Dances. Heck, some of the lines like an "amazing people" were exact copies. Avatar can be seen more of an influence, but not ripoff. The entire concept on a whole overshadows the dances inspiration. There's much more originality going for it, like the mechs, world, avatars, etc etc. 

Titanic was a ripoff of real life.





OK I have a question to ask the STAR WARS fans. I've never watched one but I know ill love them as I live sci Fi. Im going to watch them but I want to know what's the best order to watch them? I know they came out with episodes 4-5-6 first then 1-2-3. Which way would be best to watch them?



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StokedUp said:
OK I have a question to ask the STAR WARS fans. I've never watched one but I know ill love them as I live sci Fi. Im going to watch them but I want to know what's the best order to watch them? I know they came out with episodes 4-5-6 first then 1-2-3. Which way would be best to watch them?

I'd say it doesn't really matter.

If you're watching 1-2-3-4-5-6 then of course the story is in order, which is nice and it'll get better and better, because it's no big secret that the prequels are held in a much lesser regard than the originals in general. So watching 4-5-6-1-2-3 is probably a safer bet if you don't want to risk potentially being turned off by 1. Since 4 was made first, it's basically a fresh start and it won't feel like you don't know what's going on. On the other hand 1's not "unwatchable" either. So yeah, I'd say it doesn't really matter. Do keep in mind that Star Wars is not really sci-fi though like Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica. It's more a fantasy in space, but the genres overlap of course.

I realize this isn't much of a definitive answer to your question however, just me babbling.



StokedUp said:
OK I have a question to ask the STAR WARS fans. I've never watched one but I know ill love them as I live sci Fi. Im going to watch them but I want to know what's the best order to watch them? I know they came out with episodes 4-5-6 first then 1-2-3. Which way would be best to watch them?

If you're watching them all, watch them from 1 to 7; it will only go up from the prequels, and JJ is actually a better director than Lucas.





Soundwave said:
LordLichtenstein said:

Both :)



 

Cameron better have an unbelievable script for Avatar 2 IMO. That 3D gimmick is not going to carry a second movie. 

The humans come back and bomb the planets surface from orbit until everything is dead and barren, then they start mining. The movie will be15 minutes long.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

StokedUp said:
OK I have a question to ask the STAR WARS fans. I've never watched one but I know ill love them as I live sci Fi. Im going to watch them but I want to know what's the best order to watch them? I know they came out with episodes 4-5-6 first then 1-2-3. Which way would be best to watch them?

You watch the original trilogy first, then you watch the 4th movie that is in cinemas now.

If you absolutely don't want to ignore the prequels, watch them a few weeks later and also watch the Plinkett reviews to each.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Porcupine_I said:

The humans come back and bomb the planets surface from orbit until everything is dead and barren, then they start mining. The movie will be15 minutes long.

It will be 25 minutes long: the first 5 will be an accountant analyzing the cost-benefit of bombing for unobtanium, and the second 5 minutes will be a meeting to discuss the cost-benefit analysis of bombing for unobtanium .