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kenzomatic on 21 March 2008

The first part is for those who don't know about iPod Touch 

The iPod touch adds the graphical user interfaces Cover Flow and Multi-Touch to the iPod line and is available with 8, 16 or 32 GB of flash memory. It includes Apple's Safari web browser and is the first iPod enabling wireless access to the iTunes Store. Beginning in June, the iPod touch will also have access to the App Store.[3]The iPod touch has the iPhone's multi-touch interface, with a physical home button off the touch screen. The home screen has a list of buttons for the available applications which include Music, Videos, Photos, iTunes, Safari, YouTube, Mail, Maps and Widgets. Software upgrades sold by Apple expand the iPod touch's functionality by adding more features. It also has wifi.

Comparisons to the iPhone

The iPod touch is slimmer and lighter than the iPhone. Unlike the iPhone, the iPod touch lacks a phone, internal speakers, camera, physical buttons for volume control, the silver chrome frame, and Bluetooth capability.The iPod touch uses software-based volume controls, which require users to double-tap the home button, bringing up an on-screen slider.

At least one critic has suggested that Apple may have purposely left out these hardware features in order to differentiate the iPod touch from its more expensive cousin, or to add these features in later releases to obtain more sales. Others say that the iPod touch does not require the aforementioned features because it is fundamentally an iPod and not a mobile phone.

The iPhone has sold over 5 million units.

http://gigaom.com/2008/03/06/does-iphone-need-the-ifund/

Yes those figures include all forms of ipod including the mini, nano.

I think people saying gaming on the iPod will be only as popular as the N-Gage are wrong. The N-gage has only sold a little over 3 million copies. Why is it so hard to believe that the device people use for music/tv shows/movie/portable internet will not enjoy any success in gaming. Do I think it will be as popular as the ds or psp as far as games go? Hell no. As for the argument that the iPhone is a gimmick OK, but the iPod line is proven and the iPod touch will do fine. (Note the iPod line is seperate from the iPhone).

Bottom line we're not talking about a device that is going to rely on gaming for sales at all. We're talking about a device which people are going to buy with or without games. And if you already have it why wouldn't you get a game for it? Everyone I know has those crapy phone game on there phone. People want portable entertainment. If the price is right people will buy.

Edit: top part is from wikipedia

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kingofwale on 21 March 2008

>The iPod touch is slimmer and lighter than the iPhone. Unlike the iPhone, the iPod touch lacks a phone, internal speakers, camera, physical buttons for volume control


wow, I actually didn't know it doesn't have physical volume control, That would be SUCH a bitch to use.

How did Apple overlook that?

But then again, how did Apple overlook the recessive headphone on IPhone? *sighs*



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
kenzomatic on 21 March 2008

^yeah its a little annoying.



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.

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kingofwale on 21 March 2008

I hate when a good thread gets no reply while pointless threads get fanboys 'raping' each other... So I shall reply again.

To me (an IPhone only), I see a lot of advantage with IPod touch/IPhone over the original Ipod in term of gaming ability. Yes, I also own a 80GB Ipod 5.5gen and the gaming on there is absolutely painful because of the clickwheel. For that, I think it was the reason they Ipod games never made a huge impact.

As for IPhone/Ipod Touch gen.. well, the install base is still small, but I see HUGE potential there. What Apple needs to do is make games that uses the touch feature (like taptap music game that was free by third party) and it needs to be cheap. It needs to go the way of DS to success (casual games to the core)

Frankly, Nintendog, Elite Beat type of games will do great on there... as for Spore... I don't think it will do as good.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
hunter_alien on 21 March 2008

I wouldent invest into an Iphone , and yes , Im calling it an investment , especially because I would have to pay for it at least 600 Euros , if I would want to own one .

The Iphone has 3 major issue , why it will never be a popular gaming device :

1 . Unlike the PSP , its already advertised more as a multimedia device and less as a gaming device , while the PSP had at least some game ads when it was released , and it was considered first as a handheld .

2 . There is no physical game storage for it , the only way to get them is trough DL them , and this will affect a lot the upcomming games quality .

3 . Price . Common , even the PSP was 250$ at release in the US , and with an touchscreen enabled device already out for 120$ ( DS ) nobody will be wowed by this feature .



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coolestguyever on 21 March 2008

I have an iTouch

Once my current phone breaks or becomes obsolete I'll get an iPhone. I have the original Razr now. Its not as high tech as the new ones but gets the job done nonetheless (texting and calling is all that I care about, not cameras and sh*t)



kingofwale on 21 March 2008

Hunter... IPhone isn't supposed to be a gaming device. lol, it's like saying PS2 is also a DVD player.. well, it is.. but it's just 10% of what it really supposed to be.

Once you get used to the texting, you'd never want to go back to the old way. Trust me, it's that good



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
kenzomatic on 21 March 2008
hunter_alien said:
I wouldent invest into an Iphone , and yes , Im calling it an investment , especially because I would have to pay for it at least 600 Euros , if I would want to own one .

The Iphone has 3 major issue , why it will never be a popular gaming device :

1 . Unlike the PSP , its already advertised more as a multimedia device and less as a gaming device , while the PSP had at least some game ads when it was released , and it was considered first as a handheld .

2 . There is no physical game storage for it , the only way to get them is trough DL them , and this will affect a lot the upcomming games quality .

3 . Price . Common , even the PSP was 250$ at release in the US , and with an touchscreen enabled device already out for 120$ ( DS ) nobody will be wowed by this feature .

See this is what I don't get everyone sites price as the problem but people will buy ipods (Note iPod Touch above). There is no argument about that. The question is of the millions that buy how many will buy games. I think a lot will, because it is now an entertainment system and gaming is part of that. I don't expect anyone to buy the iPod for games, but I do expect that of all the people that buy it, for the hundred other reason, will also buy games.



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.

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