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Can't wait for the NX to come. For sure many are going to eat crow! Will it be NX TeamA or NX TeamB?



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Honestly, I am fine if Nintendo doesn't have third party multi-plats, although I understand why others aren't. I am always going to buy my multiplats on PC. I'd rather Nintendo focus on providing great games and creating new IP's like they have been doing with Wii U. Give me more Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros, and more games like Splatoon and Xenoblade. Honestly, Nintendo don't change, and that is the best thing you can do. As long as you have your niche you'll be profitable, and as a business that really is all that matters.



Intrinsic said:
Sigh...... its happening already.

As long as Nintendo are selling a box that's put primarily under the TV and plays games primarily. Then they are competing with the PS4/XB1.

And I'll say it again. if Nintendo releases the NX in 2016/2017 or even 2018. It will fail. And fail hard. They have to release in the same year that the next PS/XB comes out. That's the only chance they have of competing. They release too early, 2016/2017, and there won't be enough of a power difference to make it look distinctly a generational leap over what at the time will be a much cheaper ps4/xb1. Release too late, and people would just wait for a year to 18 months for the inevitable release of what would be a more powerful PS5/xb2.

Sometimes I wonder how the people that run Nintendo think... they are just going about all this all wrong.

If it is a unified handheld/home console/other form factor platform, and especially considering how all companies are rethinking their platforms for future generations, an early release won't be as drastic as you make it seem.





Intrinsic said:
Sigh...... its happening already.

As long as Nintendo are selling a box that's put primarily under the TV and plays games primarily. Then they are competing with the PS4/XB1.

And I'll say it again. if Nintendo releases the NX in 2016/2017 or even 2018. It will fail. And fail hard. They have to release in the same year that the next PS/XB comes out. That's the only chance they have of competing. They release too early, 2016/2017, and there won't be enough of a power difference to make it look distinctly a generational leap over what at the time will be a much cheaper ps4/xb1. Release too late, and people would just wait for a year to 18 months for the inevitable release of what would be a more powerful PS5/xb2.

Sometimes I wonder how the people that run Nintendo think... they are just going about all this all wrong.

If NX is somewhat similar to the speculation behind it, Nintendo is moving away from the traditional old bussiness model. They are going after something new, something that can sell better than WiiU/3DS.





Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


sc94597 said:
Honestly, I am fine if Nintendo doesn't have third party multi-plats, although I understand why others aren't. I am always going to buy my multiplats on PC. I'd rather Nintendo focus on providing great games and creating new IP's like they have been doing with Wii U. Give me more Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros, and more games like Splatoon and Xenoblade. Honestly, Nintendo don't change, and that is the best thing you can do. As long as you have your niche you'll be profitable, and as a business that really is all that matters.

This is pretty much what I do and wouldn't mind Nintendo doing, I mean for the longest time they have been in their own little bubble while trying not to become an exact replica of the other two companies (which would be annoying to have all 3 being exactly the same for everything). I;d rather they work on their own games but I would love if their systems in the future came with a bit more power and used a regular gamepad but sell the innovative ones on their own.





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zorg1000 said:
Nem said:
Thats good, because i still think it won't be a home console... or if it is it won't be any technical marvel. Its gonna be aimed at the casual market. Its nothing for us.

 

Something can be aimed for both the casual and hardcore market.

Despite Wii & DS being very casual focused devices, they still got a bunch of hardcore focused games.

 

Thats what they tried to do with the Wii U.



A singular Nintendo console is pretty much doomed to fail IMO.

It has to be cheap and kid friendly because Nintendo cannot divorce themselves from their family roots.

But if its cheap and kid friendly that means weak hardware that will be easily outclassed by XB2 and PS5 soon enough and likely not much better (or even worse) than the current PS4/XB1 which are going to be cheap enough by next year.

It will get little/no third party support, developers are not going to support another underpowered Nintendo console again, especially after the disaster of the Wii U most will opt to "wait and see" with it, which means it will never have support, because it becomes that whole chicken/egg problem.

I'm becoming less convinced too that the appeal of having all Nintendo games in one place is neccessarily a boon to the *console*. It would help the handheld out moreso IMO because most Nintendo fans even only buy the handheld (3DS is outselling the Wii U what? 5 to 1?). Once you can get all the same Nintendo franchises on the handheld, a lot of people I think will actually just say "I can already play this game on the handheld, I'm not buying another piece of hardware just to play the same games on my TV, I can put this $150 towards a Playstation that actually has all these other games if I want a real console".



Nem said:
zorg1000 said:

 

Something can be aimed for both the casual and hardcore market.

Despite Wii & DS being very casual focused devices, they still got a bunch of hardcore focused games.

 

Thats what they tried to do with the Wii U.

And??? The Wii U failing doesn't mean a device can't successfully cater to both markets.





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Pavolink said:
Intrinsic said:
Sigh...... its happening already.

As long as Nintendo are selling a box that's put primarily under the TV and plays games primarily. Then they are competing with the PS4/XB1.

And I'll say it again. if Nintendo releases the NX in 2016/2017 or even 2018. It will fail. And fail hard. They have to release in the same year that the next PS/XB comes out. That's the only chance they have of competing. They release too early, 2016/2017, and there won't be enough of a power difference to make it look distinctly a generational leap over what at the time will be a much cheaper ps4/xb1. Release too late, and people would just wait for a year to 18 months for the inevitable release of what would be a more powerful PS5/xb2.

Sometimes I wonder how the people that run Nintendo think... they are just going about all this all wrong.

If NX is somewhat similar to the speculation behind it, Nintendo is moving away from the traditional old bussiness model. They are going after something new, something that can sell better than WiiU/3DS.



This seems like one of those things that sounds good on paper but in reality isn't. 

What is this new business model? what exactly are they doing? Are the making a traditional console with a touchscreen controller that allows you play games away from the console like the WiiU but this time u can play your console games away from home? Or are they making a handheld that you can plug into your TV and play your games their too. Either way basically making something with a unified architecture so games made for one works on the other? 

I don't get it. 





Intrinsic said:
Pavolink said:

If NX is somewhat similar to the speculation behind it, Nintendo is moving away from the traditional old bussiness model. They are going after something new, something that can sell better than WiiU/3DS.



This seems like one of those things that sounds good on paper but in reality isn't. 

What is this new business model? what exactly are they doing? Are the making a traditional console with a touchscreen controller that allows you play games away from the console like the WiiU but this time u can play your console games away from home? Or are they making a handheld that you can plug into your TV and play your games their too. Either way basically making something with a unified architecture so games made for one works on the other? 

I don't get it. 



Iwata mentioned a future unified architecture  with an OS similar to IOS or Android. So the platforms will share games similar to how a tablet and a cell phone share software, but they can also have software that is specifically designed for them. 

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-s-next-console-and-mobile-will-be-like-brothers/1100-6417496/

However, because of vast technological advances, it became possible to achieve a fair degree of architectural integration," he explained. "We discussed this point, and we ultimately concluded that it was the right time to integrate the two teams."

Nintendo won't face these issues going forward beyond the Wii U and 3DS, Iwata said, because the company's new unified approach will allow consoles and handhelds to become "like brothers in a family of systems."

Finally, Iwata said he remains unsure if the form factor of its next platforms will be integrated to establish some kind of hybrid system. Instead, he said the opposite might be true; that the number of form factors could increase in the way that multiple devices can run iOS and Android. This will all depend on consumer demand, he said.