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shenlong213 said:
Random_Matt said:
Those games would look miles better visually on PS4 and even better on PC. |
Developers are pushing the Wii U to its limits!
You're missing the point there
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Only if you think the OP is missing the point when he puts the point in his text saying WiiU games could pass as PS4 games with MINOR improvements
Bofferbrauer said:
After watching both videos, I didn't find Driveclub much more advanced visually. It's most impressive advantage is having much more foliage in the background (if you know how much power they can cost). However, the game couldn't hold a stable 30 fps if it's life depended on it, and the stuttering framerate is noticable througout almost the entire video, sometimes very strongly, too.
As a stuttering framerate is an absolute no-go for me in fast-paced games like racers, the visual prowess of Driveclub comes at way too much of a cost for me. If it had been slightly scaled down to Fast Racing Neo-like graphics it could have achieved a playable framerate, but as it stands it's just a slighly playable diashow slightly prettier than FRN.
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What a crazy comparison. But you could always choose GT6 or Wipout HD as options. Would you say they look better than Driveclub because their have bigger or more stable fps? You aren't even comparing apples and oranges. You are going from 2 extremes and saying one is better because you like it more.
Goodnightmoon said:
Someone does a thread about the way developers push the wiiu limits and people comes just to remember everyone that wiiu is weaker than the rest. Oh really? :O We had no clue! |
The OP maybe didn't, he is claiming that the WiiU games could pass as PS4 games with minor improvements.
garretslarrity said:
Alright, everyone. No Wii U game is as technically impressive as a AAA PS4 game. The hardware just makes that next to impossible. But that's not the point of this thread. The point is to discuss the impressive optimization efforts of Nintendo. The fact that we could even have this discussion with such a difference between the hardware displays just how impressive Nintendo's optimization skills are. It makes me wish even more that they had made the Wii U more powerful, and that we could have seen just what they were truly capable of. |
All companies are making improvements and optimization. The fact that we can have this discussion just show how badly informed OP is not how much the system is optimized.
danielrdp said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. FRN looks better than a PS3 game. And before you say anything, I own both games (Drice Club and Fast Racing). FRN is gorgeous. Of course, it's not as beautiful as PS4 game, but that doesn't mean that the graphics are last gen.
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FRN looks better than FF XIII, GT6, TLOU and everything else? Are you sure that isn't only your opinion? And no one said it's last gen, just that it wouldn't pass as a PS4 game.
Illusion said:
Aside from Xenoblade X, I am not sure that Nintendo's focus has really been on pushing hardware the way that western developers do. What's the point when the XOne and PS4 will always be miles ahead in the graphics department?
Irrespective of graphics, I think the more important observation is that Nintendo has been getting progressively better at developing games at the HD standard over the past 3 years. Back in 2013, even a game like Pikmin 3 (which basically was re-using Wii assets) was stumping Nintendo. Now, all of Nintendo's 1st and 2nd party developers are cranking out 720p games and while there are still delays they do seem to be hitting their stride. This is actually really good news for Nintendo heading into the NX, especially if the NX will be producing PS4 level graphics. I think that the Wii U was a necessary step for Nintendo to get back on even footing with Sony and Microsoft... They needed this intermediary, less successful console for Nintendo to make some of the necessary advances that the Wii neglected. Now Nintendo is in a better position to go guns-a-blazing with the NX if they choose to take Sony and MS on directly.
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You'll push the hardware to make better games even if your system is weaker, actually even more when it's weaker. And that doesn't exactly means pushing for graphics.
Natural evolution on developing. But sure they are puting better games and have a better output rate nowadays. And 720p to 1080p will show some more difficults, or could show 0 difficults if they have been developing to release as 1080p and them on optimization cap the res.
I don't think they needed the intermediary, they could have gone straight for PS4 ballpark, maybe 1/e of X1 capability. That would allowed them to make their games 1080p60fps on the style they develop. This intermediary only made their life harder... but we can't be sure if the console would've been successfull if they released a stronger console. I don't think power was the main component of bad sales.
Wyrdness said:
midrange said:
I have the ps3 and nothing has made me want to buy a ps4
comparing wii/ wii u the bump in quality is really noticeable so I bought it almost day one
Typically I don't care, but when you start "justifying" purchases with a bump in quality that depends on the company, then it annoys me. It's dumb.
I also get annoyed when people say "I don't want to buy a ps4 because it has no gamez" or "I don't want a wii u because it is for children." These things are really annoying
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He didn't say PS4 has no games though or anything of the sort, to me his comment came across more as him or her saying that the PS4 has not yet met their expectations of it based on their experience with the previous console, your reaction to it just seems ott.
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Well if he can be satisfied by WiiU technical aspects what is the problem with PS4? If it's gaming prefference I would understand, but then it would make little sense the jump from PS3 to WiiU (and crazy enough both are closer on capabilities than PS4 to PS3).
