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500k or less 58 16.29%
 
500k - 1m 142 39.89%
 
1m - 1.5m 104 29.21%
 
Over 1.5m 52 14.61%
 
Total:356
curl-6 on 12 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

The link works for me. Are you on a phone?

Consumers tend to judge on face value and first impressions; one look at the graphics will be enough for a lot of them to form a negative impression. One of the reasons devs place so much value on graphics these days is precisely so many consumers will take one look at a game and form an opinion primarily on how attractive it is visually.

It says problem with my location.

Well Nintendo consumers are not like other consumers, they know that real value of Nintendo games lies in gameplay and fun factor, not only in graphic.

Nintendo gamers do indeed tend to be less focussed on graphics, true, but even they tend to like pretty visuals. Nintendo's major Wii U games have all been quite pretty to look at; Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D World, even Smash Bros and Splatoon are all quite attractive.

With Starfox, its not so much the graphics in themselves, but more the fact that they seem to imply a "cheap" game.





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Miyamotoo on 12 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

It says problem with my location.

Well Nintendo consumers are not like other consumers, they know that real value of Nintendo games lies in gameplay and fun factor, not only in graphic.

Nintendo gamers do indeed tend to be less focussed on graphics, true, but even they tend to like pretty visuals. Nintendo's major Wii U games have all been quite pretty to look at; Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D World, even Smash Bros and Splatoon are all quite attractive.

With Starfox, its not so much the graphics in themselves, but more the fact that they seem to imply a "cheap" game.

Graphic that isnt best looking on Wii U definatly not imply that is "cheap" game, not for Nintendo consumers. You can say that games that game like Toad's Treasure Tracker, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Mario Tennis and Amiibo Festival are definitely "cheap", but you cant say same thing for Star Fox Zero in comparison with them.





curl-6 on 12 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Nintendo gamers do indeed tend to be less focussed on graphics, true, but even they tend to like pretty visuals. Nintendo's major Wii U games have all been quite pretty to look at; Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D World, even Smash Bros and Splatoon are all quite attractive.

With Starfox, its not so much the graphics in themselves, but more the fact that they seem to imply a "cheap" game.

Graphic that isnt best looking on Wii U definatly not imply that is "cheap" game, not for Nintendo consumers. You can say that games that game like Toad's Treasure Tracker, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Mario Tennis and Amiibo Festival are definitely "cheap", but you cant say same thing for Star Fox Zero in comparison with them.

Why not? Captain Toad was a $40 game and it looks far more attractive and not "cheap" at all.



Miyamotoo on 12 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Graphic that isnt best looking on Wii U definatly not imply that is "cheap" game, not for Nintendo consumers. You can say that games that game like Toad's Treasure Tracker, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Mario Tennis and Amiibo Festival are definitely "cheap", but you cant say same thing for Star Fox Zero in comparison with them.

Why not? Captain Toad was a $40 game and it looks far more attractive and not "cheap" at all.

Because Nintendo is investing lota time and effort in development of this game, its not like other game that I mentioned that are basically developed in few months, game that running on two screens with different views and 60fps definitely isn't cheap.

Toad It's cheap because it's rip off from Mario 3D World and have very small content and replayability. There is reason why Nintendo priced at $40.





Goodnightmoon on 12 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Why not? Captain Toad was a $40 game and it looks far more attractive and not "cheap" at all.

Because Nintendo is investing lota time and effort in development of this game, its not like other game that I mentioned that are basically developed in few months, game that running on two screens with different views and 60fps definitely isn't cheap.

Toad It's cheap because it's rip off from Mario 3D World and have very small content and replayability. There is reason why Nintendo priced at $40.

Now spin-offs are called rip offs?





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Miyamotoo on 12 December 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because Nintendo is investing lota time and effort in development of this game, its not like other game that I mentioned that are basically developed in few months, game that running on two screens with different views and 60fps definitely isn't cheap.

Toad It's cheap because it's rip off from Mario 3D World and have very small content and replayability. There is reason why Nintendo priced at $40.

Now spin-offs are called rip offs?

Well it's basically rip off Captain Toad levels from Mario 3D World.



Goodnightmoon on 12 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because Nintendo is investing lota time and effort in development of this game, its not like other game that I mentioned that are basically developed in few months, game that running on two screens with different views and 60fps definitely isn't cheap.

Toad It's cheap because it's rip off from Mario 3D World and have very small content and replayability. There is reason why Nintendo priced at $40.

Now spin-offs are called rip offs?

Well it's basically rip off Captain Toad levels from Mario 3D World.

 When you take an element from a game and expand it into a new whole game of its own within the same franchise, thats has been always called spin off. Rip off has a bad connotation that does not makes sense here.





Miyamotoo on 12 December 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Miyamotoo said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because Nintendo is investing lota time and effort in development of this game, its not like other game that I mentioned that are basically developed in few months, game that running on two screens with different views and 60fps definitely isn't cheap.

Toad It's cheap because it's rip off from Mario 3D World and have very small content and replayability. There is reason why Nintendo priced at $40.

Now spin-offs are called rip offs?

Well it's basically rip off Captain Toad levels from Mario 3D World.

 When you take an element from a game and expand it into a new whole game of its own within the same franchise, thats has been always called spin off. Rip off has a bad connotation that does not makes sense here.

Yes, they rip off Captain Toad levels from Mario 3D World and they maild spin off game.





Goodnightmoon on 12 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Goodnightmoon said:

 When you take an element from a game and expand it into a new whole game of its own within the same franchise, thats has been always called spin off. Rip off has a bad connotation that does not makes sense here.

Yes, they rip off Captain Toad levels from Mario 3D World and they maild spin off game.

 
Rip-off:
1. A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality.
2. Something that is an imitation of something else.
3. A theft.
4. An act of exploitation.

Captain Toad is not an explotation, nor an overpriced product, nor a poor quality game, nor a theft, nor an imitation. You are using a word with a widely bad connotation on purpuse just to defend Star Fox, Captain Toad was a very high quality product that expanded a good idea that was barely a minigame with 6 levels on 3Dworld into a way more complex and long game with tons of elements that were not there before and turned a secondary character into a main character. Is just a spin off. And the fact that the game was an expansion of a previous concept does not make it cheaper, by that logic Star Fox Zero would be way cheaper since it is way more heavily based on Star Fox 64 than Captain Toad Treasure Tracker is on 3DWorld.



Miyamotoo on 12 December 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yes, they rip off Captain Toad levels from Mario 3D World and they maild spin off game.

 
Rip-off:
1. A product or service that is overpriced or of poor quality.
2. Something that is an imitation of something else.
3. A theft.
4. An act of exploitation.

Captain Toad is not a explotation, nor an overpriced product, nor a poor quality game, nor a theft, nor an imitation. You are using a word with a widely bad connotation on purpuse just to defend Star Fox, Captain Toad was a very high quality product that expanded a good idea that was barely a minigame with 6 levels on 3Dworld into a way more complex and long game with tons of elements that were not there before and turned a secondary character into a main character. Is just a spin off. And the fact that the game was an expansion of a previous concept does not make it cheaper, by that logic Star Fox Zero would be way cheaper since it is way more heavily based on Star Fox 64 than Captain Toad Treasure Tracker is on 3DWorld.

Ok, its not ripoff its just spinoff.

My point was that Toad is small game that is price like it should and that Star Fox Zero is bigger game.