250 istoo much for a console that forces you to buy storage for it! I mean add a decent size external hard drive and it cost you more than a ps4   and knowing it's on its last milke makes it harder to want to get invested in aplatform, especially one that has a major annoyance like the gamepad..

Yeah but Nintendo games are pretty pricey espacially in the US, even used months laters they still are 40 bucks. Depending on the games you want their bundles could really worth the money

Thats pretty good! Splatoon and Super Smash is a great combo.

What? Where did I say the Wii U had no appeal? I had it has no mass appeal. Those are two different things. The Wii U is incredibly appealing ...to Nintendo Fans, who appear to be a smaller and smaller group with every generation. But not to someone like me.  I spend more money on video games than most. There mere fact that I can play the games on it that I mentioned above obviously means the console has appeal for me. It just doen't have enough appeal to me to justify the price. If it can't appeal to someone like me, who buys multiple games a month but doesn't see the worth in a Wii U at $250, what chance does it have to appeal to somone who has a much lower interest in video games, but owns a PS4 and regularly plays it? What appeal does it have to someone who bought their kid a tablet for $100 and spends $5-$10 a month on games? Who is the Wii U supposed to appeal to at its current price point, and how many of those people are on the planet?

Okay, now you can speak on my behalf, can you?

I am interested in the Wii U, but not at its current price. I am interested in a Wii U at $149. I am not interest in a Wii U at $249. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Thanks for the license, but it would appear I mistook you for someone else.  

It was when I said I expect NX to be a modest leap over Wii U similar to Wii over GC, and u said nobody would buy a modestly more powerful Wii U no matter the price or games which is equivalent of saying Wii U is unappealing no matter the price or games.

But u just said it's appealing to u....at the right price ($150). If an extremely hardcore gamer feels that price is an issue for what it offers than its likely that the general consumer feels the price is too high for what it offers and could potentially be much more appealing at a significantly lower price point.

Nintendo franchises have much more appeal than Wii U leads u to believe, just look at the numbers these franchises are pushing on 3DS compared to Wii U. (Official shipments as of Sept 30, 2015)

Mario Kart 7-12.19m vs Mario Kart 8-5.87m

Super Mario 3D Land-10.21m vs Super Mario 3D World-4.47m

New Super Mario Bros 2-9.47m vs New Super Mario Bros U-4.88m

Super Smash Bros 3DS-7.37m vs Super Smash Bros Wii U-4.03m

Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon-4.61m vs New Super Luigi U-2.27m

Ocarina of Time 3D-3.82m vs Wind Waker HD-1.62m

Nintendo franchises are typically selling over 2x as much on 3DS compared to their Wii U counterparts, the amount of people who enjoy Nintendo franchises is much larger than the amount of people who own Wii U.

Nobody wants to buy a modestly more powerful Wii U because if they wanted that they could just buy a Wii U for cheaper. Does does your average gamer really want a Wii U? Definitely not at it's price point. Would it sell say, 3-4 times better if it was $150 instead of $250? I'm not sure. To be honest, I doubt it. I just know I'd buy one then. Do I think the NX will be more successful than the Wii U if it's pretty much a Wii U 2 with a slighter cheapers release price and a few more first part games a year? No, absolutely not.

Regarding 3DS sales vs Wii U sales, you also must consider: 3DS handheld sales are 4-5 times higher than Wii U sales. 3DS games are $10-$30 cheaper than Wii U games on release. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

A $150 Nintendo console with new releases every month compared to a $300 Nintendo console with new releases every 3-4 months that have similar levels if power, ya I'd say the $150 console with a consistent releases schedule would sell quite a bitter better. 3-4x as much, perhaps not but 2-2.5x as much, ya that sounds reasonable.

As for why I'm comparing it to 3DS, because 3DS proves the amount of people who are interested in Nintendo games is much higher than Wii U, if it's at the right price and the right software output.

Let's assume the NX is the Wii U2, and comes out somehow at $150 (it won't unless Nintendo wants to take a loss), and Nintendo puts out first party games at the rate they do now, but every title they put out is compatible with it, that still wouldn't be a new first party game every month. It would be 5-6 per year rather than 3-4. But even with that, let's assume it sells double the Wii U, or about 25 million in 3 years - That would still be a failure especially if Nintendo is taking a loss on the console, and their attach rate decreases because more causal gamers are buying the console.