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Miyamotoo on 27 November 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

People are very impressed with Zelda U graphics even if compare it with PS4 game graphics, so I dont see why they wouldn't be impressed with same 1080p AA graphic that certainly will be improved with new Zelda on NX.

So basically on NX Nintendo will have port of Zelda U but that game is developed from ground for Wii U hardware, so Nintendo can easily use same engine, assets and models and improved them use maximum of NX hardware for new NX Zelda. That could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U.

What they've shown of Zelda U does indeed look awesome, but if it was a Triple A exclusive on PS4/Xbone I expect a lot of people would say it looks underwhelming technically. And NX will likely be close to those systems in power.

Even on if its PS4/Xbox One people would be say that look awesome even technically it's not pair on other games. Agree that NX will probably be on pair in power with those systems, but power like that means that NX could run little improved Zelda U graphic in 1080p with AA and that could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U.



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ChrnoTodd on 27 November 2015

God Kart 8 was a mistake too.



curl-6 on 27 November 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

What they've shown of Zelda U does indeed look awesome, but if it was a Triple A exclusive on PS4/Xbone I expect a lot of people would say it looks underwhelming technically. And NX will likely be close to those systems in power.

Even on if its PS4/Xbox One people would be say that look awesome even technically it's not pair on other games. Agree that NX will probably be on pair in power with those systems, but power like that means that NX could run little improved Zelda U graphic in 1080p with AA and that could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U.

Even at 1080p I doubt people would be very accepting of these graphics in an NX-exclusive Zelda. People would be all "it hardly looks better than the last gen one".



Gamemaster87 on 27 November 2015
blizzardsphere said:

If Nintendo was smart, they could relaunch the Wii U make a revision backed by heavy marketing, 3rd party support and using HDD instead of flash. Wii U is a commercial failure, the lack of effort by nintendo is clear. Consumers don't trust Nintnedo if they keep having short console cycles.

Agreed.

Does somebody guarantee me that it will improve with the NX? That Nintendo will have longer console cycles? That Nintendo will put more effort in their games? That Third Parties return? No.

They can only show it to me with the Wii U. If they don't try to improve the Wii U's situation, I don't see a reason why it should get better with the NX aka I'm done with Nintendo.



Miyamotoo on 27 November 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Even on if its PS4/Xbox One people would be say that look awesome even technically it's not pair on other games. Agree that NX will probably be on pair in power with those systems, but power like that means that NX could run little improved Zelda U graphic in 1080p with AA and that could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U.

Even at 1080p I doubt people would be very accepting of these graphics in an NX-exclusive Zelda. People would be all "it hardly looks better than the last gen one".

Didn't said only 1080p, I said 1080p, AA and certainly improved Zelda U engine and graphic. Again, that could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U. With graphic like that no one would said "it hardly looks better than the last gen one".




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curl-6 on 27 November 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Even at 1080p I doubt people would be very accepting of these graphics in an NX-exclusive Zelda. People would be all "it hardly looks better than the last gen one".

Didn't said only 1080p, I said 1080p, AA and certainly improved Zelda U engine and graphic. Again, that could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U. With graphic like that no one would said "it hardly looks better than the last gen one".

Once you start improving the graphics to where people would be satisfied with it as a "next gen Zelda" you lose the advantage of reusing a lot of Zelda U assets, cos those won't cut it in 2020 or so when the NX Zelda comes out.



Miyamotoo on 27 November 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Didn't said only 1080p, I said 1080p, AA and certainly improved Zelda U engine and graphic. Again, that could be quite different in comparison with Zelda U. With graphic like that no one would said "it hardly looks better than the last gen one".

Once you start improving the graphics to where people would be satisfied with it as a "next gen Zelda" you lose the advantage of reusing a lot of Zelda U assets, cos those won't cut it in 2020 or so when the NX Zelda comes out.

Take MM 64 like example, definatly looks better than OoT 64 and have same engine, assests and models and runs on exatly same hardware (expect 4MB more RAM), and Nintendo fineshed that game just for one year.

So of course that will be little improved graphic and engine on posible NX Zelda, you cant expect that will look exactly same like on Wii U, but again that will be same engine and they will reuse lotsa assets and models. Like I said, if Nintendo decide to do with NX Zelda similar they done with MM 64, we could have Zelda NX 2-3 years after Zelda U and definitely will look noticeably better than Zelda U.



curl-6 on 27 November 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

Once you start improving the graphics to where people would be satisfied with it as a "next gen Zelda" you lose the advantage of reusing a lot of Zelda U assets, cos those won't cut it in 2020 or so when the NX Zelda comes out.

Take MM 64 like example, definatly looks better than OoT 64 and have same engine, assests and models and runs on exatly same hardware (expect 4MB more RAM), and Nintendo fineshed that game just for one year.

So of course that will be little improved graphic and engine on posible NX Zelda, you cant expect that will look exactly same like on Wii U, but again that will be same engine and they will reuse lotsa assets and models. Like I said, if Nintendo decide to do with NX Zelda similar they done with MM 64, we could have Zelda NX 2-3 years after Zelda U and definitely will look noticeably better than Zelda U.

That's different, Majora's Mask reused assets from a game of the same generation, not the previous one.



Miyamotoo on 27 November 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Take MM 64 like example, definatly looks better than OoT 64 and have same engine, assests and models and runs on exatly same hardware (expect 4MB more RAM), and Nintendo fineshed that game just for one year.

So of course that will be little improved graphic and engine on posible NX Zelda, you cant expect that will look exactly same like on Wii U, but again that will be same engine and they will reuse lotsa assets and models. Like I said, if Nintendo decide to do with NX Zelda similar they done with MM 64, we could have Zelda NX 2-3 years after Zelda U and definitely will look noticeably better than Zelda U.

That's different, Majora's Mask reused assets from a game of the same generation, not the previous one.

And that why I said Nintendo can do something similar with NX Zelda, especially when Zelda U probably will be ported on NX.



esixgi on 27 November 2015

I think that Zelda for wii U this March was almost done....I think that from that date the team worked hard for make the NX verison.. So a big team from that date is working on the Nx version and a small one is finishing the wii u game.
It's just my thought obviously.