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HoloDust on 10 November 2015

Technically, I'd say yes, you can run some games on some mean rigs with insane settings...but, on the other hand, I don't think there is anything like 2007 equivalent of Crysis that is so much ahead of consoles.



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Conina on 10 November 2015
Intrinsic said:
Conina said:
Intrinsic said:
No.

When people say PCs they seem to forget that majority of the PCs out there can't even run games at the current settings of a PS4.

The majority of consoles out there also can't run games at the current settings of a PS4. ;)

Going by the Steam statistics there should be around 25 - 30 million gaming PCs (with graphic cards like GTX 670 + 760 + Radeon HD 7900-series + R9-series) which can run games at the current settings of a PS4, so it's in the same ballpark as the sold PS4 units.

As far as current gen consoles go, the majority if those happen to be a ps4. And as for PCs? 25-30M. sounds comparable to the PS4 no doubt. But if you want to put that number into perspective, that's 25-30M of how many million PCs?

So why counting only current gen consoles instead of all active consoles? Cherrypicking?



armodillo17 on 10 November 2015

Shouldnt PC Versions of them multiplat games then be classed as Nextgen above the console versions?.

I get what you're trying to say, but the word "nextgen" doesn't mean "looks/plays significantly better." Nextgen means the next generation of hardware. Technically, nothing on PC can ever be called lastgen, currentgen, or nextgen, because PCs don't have generations that are defined the way that consoles do.

If you want to say that PC games look better than their console counterparts, why not just say that? Why do people (not just the OP, but a LOT of people) feel the need to slap a buzzword on it?



Ganoncrotch on 10 November 2015
Trunkin said:
Intrinsic said:
No.

When people say PCs they seem to forget that majority of the PCs out there can't even run games at the current settings of a PS4. And they make it sound like its the norm for majority of PCs to have GPUs that cist more than a PS4 alone.

If you look at true current gen games and not cross gen games; you will clearly see all the little things that make up a generational leap. Especially when both games are running on a 1080p TV. Bow take a $4000 PC. and run whatever game u want at 1080p and 200fps. You will NOT see as big a difference between it and a PS4 running the same game on a 1080p TV. At least not one that justifies the difference in cost.

IMO, if you really want to compare a pc with a console. Then always compare what kinda PC you can get for the cost of whatever console its being compared to. Right now you can get a PS4 for $350 and in some places $300.So let's talk about $300 PCs. Cause that's how anyone would look at it that has $300 to spend on a gaming platform.

I know you're just giving an example, but... How would you even build a $4000 PC? Like, what would be in it? Whatever's in there, you'd probably need a 4k TV to really make use of it. Make sure its 120, too.

OT: I would say no. While there are some games on PC that could reasonably be considered "next-gen," *coughstarcitizencough* by the large PC games(running on $500-1000 systems) are just marginally prettier than console games, with much higher frame rates. It's better, but not "next gen" better, IMO.

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Just go for true black and get an OLED monitor, considering how beautiful it makes some of the vita games look I'd consider it if they came down a bit... maybe dropped a single digit from the price.



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Abun on 10 November 2015
Ruler said:
No not at all. Its actually the other way around imo, the PS4 exclsuives look the most next gen to me. Games like Bloodborne, driveclub, knack, Second Son, the order 1886, Killzone look like a generation above in comperaison to the multiplat on all systems when it comes to pure visuals


Exactly and looking at next year,U4,R&C and Horizon look light years ahead of everything.No multiplat game comes close even on PC.



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Arkaign on 10 November 2015

Yeah, the problem by default is that many/most PC games are not designed to really take advantage of high end hardware.

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Turkish on 10 November 2015

What a ridiculous thread.

So what do you call a last gen PC game, current gen????? Play any last gen game released between 2006-2013 on PC and compare them to a PS4 game???? The PS4 game craps on the PC port of said PS360 game.

For example I've been playing Dead Space 2 and Remember Me in 2880p(5k) lately and nowhere is it close to any PS4 exclusive.

If you think upressed ports of current gen games on PC will come close to a PS5 game in 2020, you must be easily fooled in everyday life.

"hey guys Dragon Age Origins in 4K looks better than Horizon Zero Dawn" ahahahhh



Zekkyou on 10 November 2015

I tend to consider the PC version of multi-plats to be the .5 generation version. If you can max it out you'll often see a linear in-game jump similar to what we usually see in cross-gen titles, but a much smaller one than what we tend to see between well made gen specific titles.

Obviously things shift as a generation progresses (in a fashion that, interestingly enough, shows off the advantages of both consoles and PCs), but at this point in a generation it's not uncommon to see a jump similar to what we got in something like Destiny, but very rare to find one like inFamous 1 to SS.



vivster on 10 November 2015

Make that next next gen. After this gen I firmly believe that we won't have 60fps across the board next gen.



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episteme on 10 November 2015

Well, console generations are defined by release dates and not by power. And PCs are generally outside of console generations.

 

About the graphics discussion: we'd need a Crytek or CD Projekt Red PC exclusive to see the potential of today's hardware. Multiplats usually have consoles as lead platform and are holding PCs back.