On a plus side, nobody is paying attention to TR's technical issues, input lag / 25fps / image quality. Too busy crucifying Fallout.

Given how I felt that I've wasted money on last one, SE will not get my money for main TR (spin-offs like Guardian/Osiris are ok) until there is actually proper TR game, with all the old stuff and old Lara...maybe that will be next game, maybe that just never happens. But, eventually I will try this one. (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)

Anyway, glad you're enjoying it, I'm off to get pissed off by another franchise that is in my 'Top 5 IPs with at least 3 entries' that got ruined, but this one is at least half ruined...yep, Fallout.

I don't see how this exclusivity deal is bad for CD/SE?

They'll have got their £££ out of the deal. Maybe boosted Xbox sales across this Q4? Then I don't think many PS4 owners will no longer want the game next year, especially if it launches with DLC and is a GOTY edition.

ha well yea I guess that is a plus I literally haven't heard anything about this game except for the few threads talking about reviews and I just read the title's and moved on. This game would have been a perfect summer release for MS when they tend to not release much of anything.

Pretty much this, the same happens for PC/PS4/Wii U/Xbox players all the time. That and SE is likely to get more out of this deal in the end anyway.

I called this way back during E3. Stupid. Let's release a mid tier franchise not on the console which has the user base for the genre directly against Fallout, CoD, Halo, and Battlefront. Pure brilliance.

I actually think SE is losing on this deal. I don't know how much they were paid by MS so I guess that's the main thing I would have to consider. Either way though I think they're hurting the overall franchise by doing this. They may have come out ahead with this game because of MS's money but what did they lose by doing this? MS wont be there for TR3 at least I wouldn't rely on them being there. So now by the time the game comes out will anyone still care? Sure I will but I'll be waiting until it drop to sub $20 on steam. Mainly because the first one started off great but got really boring towards the middle and I had to force my way through the rest of the game. I could be wrong I just don't really see how SE is winning here this game is getting less hype then it did when the first one came out.

Unlikely, Sony's likely to take the same approach they did last gen by requiring additional blah blah blah on timed exclusives.  Except they can really demand more since SE would lose out on a massive amt of sales (likely more than what will sell on XB1), otherwise.

I feel the opposite tbh, the sales SE was going to make on Xbox was the sales they are going to make now even if they released all at the same time. MS just happened to throw exra money towards SE and during the first half of 2016 they will release towards the PC market and make their money from that sector and of course near the end half of that year they will then sell to PS4 which will also make them their money. Really they are just going from one system at a time to collect what they can, Rockstar did this with PC for enarly 2 years and they made plenty of money even without being paid to hold it off. The same happens when Sony does the same tbh.

Well tbh NMS has been hyped and held off two other systems for nearly 3 years now (yes 3 if you count the conceptual stages before PS4 was even remotely announced) and has been pushed back till next summer which I;m sure will have killed most of the hype but again time will tell what happens to that game.

A bit late to this thread, but IMO it was a strategic mistake to take a long standing multi-plat franchise and make it a timed exclusive as a counter to Uncharted.

As Phil Spencer noted, he would very much like an Uncharted type franchise for Xbox and it seems like their studios have been working up ideas. The money they spent on RoTR may well have been better invested in actually getting a new adventure franchise up and running sooner.

What they should have done is poach Amy Hennig from EA, and got her to start working on an entirely new franchise idea. There are loads of people who love Amy Hennig's work and if she brought a quality new 1st party franchise to Xbox, that did not have the stench of moneyhatting a long-standing PS oriented 3rd party franchise, that would earn Xbox a whole bunch of new friends. And people might even be grateful that MS rescued Amy's soul from EA. That sort of strategy has win written all over it. A pity MS didn't take it.