| Ka-pi96 said:
The point is... I'm just having a dig at those claiming Fallout/Bethesda are shit because of some bugs/framerate issues. I think there's a lot more to games than just that, I mean if there wasn't then as the OP says TLOU should have got a lot of hate too. But yeah, games can still be good despite bugs and those bugs can get fixed too so unless they are actually game breaking they aren't as big a deal as some people make them out to be. |
All games have bugs, but there's definitely some more polished than others. Bethesta has always been on the shadier side of this. I don't think many people encountered even a small bug during their first playthrough of TLOU, but I bet most people saw plenty in Skyrim on PS3 even before they hit the 5 hour mark (TLOU is also a PS3 game so it's only fair to keep the comparison within the platform :D).
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Ugh...this kind of thread brings out one of my least favorite statements.
"Overrated"
What an arrogant thing to say. "Other people love this game, but because I don't they are speaking too highly of it."
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| DevilRising said: It's not a BAD game. There are far worse. But just like Uncharted, it is horrendously overrated. People praise the stories and voice acting so much, because it's "good for a game". But if those games were just straight up movies, as they try so hard to be, they'd be direct to video at best. It's both funny and sad to me, personally, that Naughty Dog used to make colorful games that focused on gameplay over anything else. And then on PS3 they transitioned into what basically most everyone else was doing, which was making "realistic" gray and brown games where you shoot things with guns, and the story the game was telling suddenly because more important that having good replay value or fun game mechanics. I'm not saying that their PS3/PS4 era output is BAD. But it's certainly not my cup of tea, and I wish they had gone in a different direction than they did. I also think it's a bit sad and ironic that they created two iconic game franchises (Crash and Jak), and basically abandoned them both. |
Wait wait did you just say Naughty Dogs games are gray and brown? Please tell me you have really bad colour vision or you're just making claims on games you've never played.
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LurkerJ said:
I don't know what bug you are talking about but at least, in your example, it got fixed in the end. If FO3 and Skyrim got patched and the problems were corrected you wouldn't have seen this amount of complaining. I think your attempt at making a counter point falls short. Because the situation isn't similar at all. I also think you are dismissing opinions of people who purchased and play Bethesda games and it is condescending tbh. |
I played the PS3 version of Skyrim a year after launch, I never met any major bugs (there was this one time where a horse just fell from the sky though. Hilarious 
) and framerate was fine (I'm sure it had some drops, but nothing noticeable, at least not noticeable enough that I remember it). My only gripe was the long loading screens...
So either at least Skyrim got patched, or Skyrim was never really broken to begin with. I'm pretty sure it's the first one, and, granted, it never being broken to begin with would be preferable, but it did get patched, and you still see this amount of people complaining, so that point isn't really true.
I get it you having a dig at the Fallout situation, the difference is TLoU had a handfull of bugs that very rarely happened and they mostly got fixed fast, Fallout 4 is like the 10th Bethesda game that has severe technical issues and ppl just sweep everything under the rug "cause hughe world".
Fallout 4 is most likely a fun game, but it shouldnt get a pass just because its Fallout, the bugs arent new, arent unfortunate, theyre a patern with Bethesda and ppl should be talking about it not showering them with praise. Not to mention the graphics are horendrous, and even tough I care more about gameplay, Bethesda didnt even try.
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Well I for one am GLAD I didn't buy it day 1 then, phew, really dodged a bullet there.
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Go play Banjo Kazooie already : P
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