This is nothing new, the numbers in here are rarely 100% correct but usually within a decent margin of error. Vgchartz works best as a hindsight tool for compiling and comparing to more official numbers.
Precise official numbers are hard to come by though, which makes it difficult to decide just how big the margin of error needs to be, and indeed is.
| tak13 said: Yeah, psv has sold 446k in France by the end of 2014 and 600k as of June 2015 in spain, so it has truly sold more in spain than in france despite the market size difference, but that fact wasn't meaning that it was undertracked in other european countries... Vgc has it at 468k at france by that time interval, good tracking! http://www.latribune.fr/technos-medias/20150210trib562875d47/jeux-video-retour-a-la-croissance-pour-un-marche-francais-tire-par-les-consoles.html Now to 9.76m figure of shipments by the end of 2015! Sony had shipped 450k psp+psv in FY14 Q4, which implies, that psv is at 10.2m and less by that time (that quarter was psp's end of life quarter, so the majority of the figure represents psv, we can pretty easily assume! Possibly 400k, with that psv must be at 10.16m by that time, not 10.5m as I had extrapolated on a previous thread based on the psp 82m... Which is finally being proved to be really a rounded number as the source pointing out, and that is more than 82m, at 82.3m it seems! Also global sales from it's launch till January 2013 were at 4m vs 4.4m of vgc! http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jan/04/playstation-2-manufacture-ends-years It's overtracked by 400k since 2013! http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41301/Global/ Ioi had psv at 10.3m as of March 31th, while the shipments were at 10.16m (before adjusting up by 1.3m ->11.6m, most of it went in europe), ergo he was moderately overtracking it! Apparently, it's thr surplus of 400k which comes from 2013. The tracking was decent, the adjustment up ruined it though! Usually vgc errors aren't huge, and there are succesful/perfect or aprroximate numbers, but this kind of error can't be ignored! Mostly, the issue is the adjustment back in April... In consequence, psv was likely at 9.9m units sold by March 31th with 300k units on the shelves, reasonable, for it's selling rate... Here's the last paragraph and the gist of thread, people who accused me (some without having the courage to do it in a direct way) that they can't understand what it says, (I have recognized that the op is intricate but I don't find what is imcomprehensilbe), please tell me what you need to be clarified, or note me my mistakes (grammar/expression e.t.c) to correct them! |
Is this directed at me? If so read the last line of my previous post. Read it a few times, please.
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| tak13 said: please tell me what you need to be clarified, or note me my mistakes (grammar/expression e.t.c) to correct them! |
You're wrong with the 10.16m figure, is all. If all this information is correct, Vita is ~ 10.21m as of March 31st 2015.
PSP (March 31st 2012) = 76.3m
PSV (March 31st 2012) = 1.8m
PSP + PSV = 7m + 4.1m + 3.3m = 14.4m (as of March 31st 2015)
PSP (June 31st 2014 - final shipment) = ~ 82.3m
82.3 - 76.3 = 6m
14.4m (shipments up until that point) - 6m = 8.4m (Vita shipments in that time).
1.8m + 8.4m = 10.2m
I assume (because they say rounded up) that PSP shipments were under 82.3m, therefore Vita is probably more likely around 10.21m as of 31st March 2015.
Assuming that all of this information regarding PSP shipments is correct, of course :P
So the Wii U with all its hitters isn't ahead of the unsupported Vita. Amazing.
A true testament to how crappy the Wii U is as a product.
I keep telling people, Sony and Ninty should join forces and bundle the Wii U and Vita together. So they can share in the misery. lol!
| LurkerJ said: So the Wii U with all its hitters isn't ahead of the unsupported Vita. Amazing. A true testament to how crappy the Wii U is as a product. |
What about the fact that people are buying a product that don't receive a support from its own producer?
What we can attest with this?
We reap what we sow
ganoncrotch said:
What you're asking me for here is a language lesson, I'm afraid that if I pass someone on the streets who has pissed themselves and I say "whoa you've pissed your pants" that doesn't mean I'm going to bring over a change of pants and try to figure out where it all went wrong. Could offer you a tip, like I said in my first paragraph reply to you, don't beat around the bush because in your second language it doesn't work "I give strong misgivings about its misguided huge adjustment up back in April (what was the reason about that, I have pointed out why, due to a misapprehension but also by the constant suffocating pressure of a specific member, that member where did he based his claimings? Nowhere, groundless assumptions, at least assumptions in order to be made need a base/evidence)! And you had praise that member for that..." "I think the April adjustment was a mistake (Mikerox says I'm wrong, I'd like to see why he thinks that) Mikerox doesn't rock" Just picture English as a sword you haven't quite perfected, don't swing it about fancily! just stab your points out directly and it might make slightly more sense.
- I'll expect the tuition fee or a "thank you" in the mail, if that isn't coming don't ask for another lesson, because emailing and messaging people on the internet "Do this for me!" with nothing in return is entitled mania, and I can't stand that. |
No, of course I' m not... The problem for me would be many complaints not a minority of complaints. One thread, post or anything doesn't characterize the english skills of someone in whole.
You know that there are non native-english people, but you must also know that a native english speaker, isn't always perfect, for instance my native language is greek, I speak better greek in great extend than most compatriots of mine. I don't mock them, not even in an underhand manner or playing the teacher!
I just asked for what is imcomprehensible, grammar errors e.t.c in order to correct them.
"I give strong misgivings about its misguided huge adjustment up back in April (what was the reason about that? I have pointed out why, due to a misapprehension but also by the constant suffocating pressure of a specific member, that member where did he based his claimings? Nowhere, groundless assumptions, at least assumptions in order to be made need a base/evidence)! And you had praise that member for that..." You tip me this to be like the line underneath, ergo that is a mistake/hard to understand? Maybe is inconherent, but it is so difficult to grasp it?
You want me to take that as a meaningful advice? I asked if I used any word wrongly, or used bad grammar/expression. Because always, linguistic tips are extremely welcome for me, and I constantly seek for them...
If you really can't understand what I'm saying in this, I must be an idiot/have really terrible english skills, eh?
I can't fathom why is that wrong, well you demand when I talk about something to mention directly or not avoid the core-subject and to look head on the issue, but is there any english rule that prohibits to speak circuitously? No, so when I feel that is needed (like preventing the developement of a polemic climate), I will keep speak in a roundabout way... It's a techique in Greek philosophy/language, yeah we're talking about english here but there is noenglish linguistic norm that forbids that.
"I think the April adjustment was a mistake (Mikerox says I'm wrong, I'd like to see why he thinks that) Mikerox doesn't rock" That's too plain/deficient, I have to put the full picture/story...
I'll expect the tuition fee or a "thank you" in the mail, if that isn't coming don't ask for another lesson, because emailing and messaging people on the internet "Do this for me!" with nothing in return is entitled mania, and I can't stand that.
I hope that you don't say that with seriousness. Are you a teacher? Do You feel that I should appreciate so much this advice,( I'm not telling that I'm not) in order to even ''pay'' you or send you a thank-you mail ? An advice that I don't find the reason for it? You declare yourself to be an english teacher?
Having english as your mother tongue doesn't mean that you can be an english teacher or you're a perfect english speaker! As I said, I'm speaking better greek and in great extend than most compatriots of mine, that doesn't make me a teacher, special studies would make me a teacher. (Ι admit that I'm giving advices, but without teaching style/poise...)
Consequently, the reason of your ''sermon'' towards me, is about me, not being direct/speaking squarely? And that's related to english skills? i thought that grammar/vocabulary/expression mistakes define the english skills of someone..
Imagine if you would be mean what would you say, do you want me, to post again, to not break your head with my ''horrendous'' english skills...
| LurkerJ said: So the Wii U with all its hitters isn't ahead of the unsupported Vita. Amazing. A true testament to how crappy the Wii U is as a product. |
You're going overboard...
Plus that the thread isn't about psv vs wii u...
Lastly, if we want to be fair, psv was released one year before wii u in Japan, and 10 months before wii u in the rest territories and it's the final result that counts.
And yes if wii u will be below it eventually, it will be a shocking defeat for the wii u, for the reason that you pointed out, supported vs unsupported...
At least wii u has more million sellers, and many of them are (impressively) multi-million sellers, that would be the consolation prize in case of losing the hardware battle...
However, again the thread is not about psv vs wii u, how much times have I to tell it? And this was the first time that I got involved into this deviating discussion here, because of the unacceptable '' crappy''!
Kresnik said:
PSP (March 31st 2012) = 76.3m PSV (March 31st 2012) = 1.8m PSP + PSV = 7m + 4.1m + 3.3m = 14.4m (as of March 31st 2015) PSP (June 31st 2014 - final shipment) = ~ 82.3m 82.3 - 76.3 = 6m 14.4m (shipments up until that point) - 6m = 8.4m (Vita shipments in that time). 1.8m + 8.4m = 10.2m I assume (because they say rounded up) that PSP shipments were under 82.3m, therefore Vita is probably more likely around 10.21m as of 31st March 2015. Assuming that all of this information regarding PSP shipments is correct, of course :P |
I have it already at 10.2m, look in the end... Big difference 10.21m vs 10.16m! :P
Also, I'm not the one who will decide, ioi is the master, my thread is the compass! He might not even adjust it ever! :P
At least 3DS situation is way more clear, so I hope that it will soon be adjusted down! :P
CESA confirmed this is an estimate and not an actual sell in number.
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