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Is pokemon a killer app for the NX?

Definetly. 89 43.63%
 
Maybe. 59 28.92%
 
No way. 56 27.45%
 
Total:204
zorg1000 on 26 October 2015
spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:

I think he was talking in terns of sales/popularity where Pokémon Gen 1 sold over 30 million


In that case, it's absolutely incorrect to assume that more connectivity lead to lower sales. 


I don't think that's what he was getting at either



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Frogger on 26 October 2015
zorg1000 said:

I don't think that's what he was getting at either

Perhaps I misunderstood, then.



archer9234 on 26 October 2015
bdbdbd said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pokemon is kiddy. Say whatever you want, but the amount of 20 somethings that would actually buy a home console for Pokemon is few and far between. You guys represent the vocal minority.

Nintendo's next console much appeal to a wider audience than the one they already have, which is, the Pokemon audience.


Actually the biggest problem Pokemon (games) has, is that the vast majority of it's audience is 20 somethings. But you're damn right about the need for Pokemon to appeal to a wider audience - if it doesn't capture the sub-15 year olds, the franchise is going to be niche in a decade.

The anime is what does that part. You can only do so much to a franchise, till its altered too far. The games haven't changed for getting younger kids. The world the kids are born in has. But think about being in a producers shoe. You gotta make something "new". But you can't alter the game that far. The franchise has been going for 20 years. That's why things do baby steps. They have altered the game really far. It's the spinoffs. And ultimatly, don't sell the same as what the primary games do, for a reason.

That's what people want from the series. Then to add on top of Nintendo's protection stuff. Restricts even more for a MMO. What would you rather have, from a companies POV. The same basic game that always works. Or Digimon Frontier. Where they threw out the Digimon, and made the kids the heroes. And killed the franchises longevity.



bdbdbd on 26 October 2015
archer9234 said:
bdbdbd said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pokemon is kiddy. Say whatever you want, but the amount of 20 somethings that would actually buy a home console for Pokemon is few and far between. You guys represent the vocal minority.

Nintendo's next console much appeal to a wider audience than the one they already have, which is, the Pokemon audience.


Actually the biggest problem Pokemon (games) has, is that the vast majority of it's audience is 20 somethings. But you're damn right about the need for Pokemon to appeal to a wider audience - if it doesn't capture the sub-15 year olds, the franchise is going to be niche in a decade.

The anime is what does that part.


I know. That's why I said "games". It really doesn't help much if kids watch the Pokemon anime and play Growtopia and Minecraft. However, Pokemon Rumble and the likes are much more accessible than the main Pokemon games (that are huge turnoffs for many due to being too complex).



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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

archer9234 on 26 October 2015
bdbdbd said:
archer9234 said:
bdbdbd said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pokemon is kiddy. Say whatever you want, but the amount of 20 somethings that would actually buy a home console for Pokemon is few and far between. You guys represent the vocal minority.

Nintendo's next console much appeal to a wider audience than the one they already have, which is, the Pokemon audience.


Actually the biggest problem Pokemon (games) has, is that the vast majority of it's audience is 20 somethings. But you're damn right about the need for Pokemon to appeal to a wider audience - if it doesn't capture the sub-15 year olds, the franchise is going to be niche in a decade.

The anime is what does that part.


I know. That's why I said "games". It really doesn't help much if kids watch the Pokemon anime and play Growtopia and Minecraft. However, Pokemon Rumble and the likes are much more accessible than the main Pokemon games (that are huge turnoffs for many due to being too complex).

Too complex, yeah right. If Pokemon is too complex. Than Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy would of had the same problem, in the past. The problem really is if kids even pay attetion to the games/show in the first place. There's more distracting options to todays kids than 20 years ago. When I got Pokemon Red. I had nothing else that would work outside and fit inside my pocket. You either had a Gameboy, or a Gamegear. Now you have your bedroom.



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lonerism on 26 October 2015
spemanig said:
Salnax said:

Why are people obsesses with the idea of a Pokemon MMO? The series was in its prime on the original Game Boy, when online play was nonexistent and link cables were mandatory. The traditional MMORPG has been declining since 2010 or so, and the MOBA genre is a terrible fit for the main Pokemon series. And Game Freak is not exactly renowned for their size or programming prowess. How do you expect a medium sized developer that only made the polygonal jump a few years ago to make a thriving MMO?


No, it was in its prime on the DS, when online was first introduced.

That's besides the point, though. Pokemon should never try to be an MMO.

Errrr, why not? You sound so certain that a Pokemon MMO would fail

So you are saying that GameFreak should stay using the same formula over and over again?

People went NUTS with Pokemon GO, they are excited for a new game instead of the same crap every year



bdbdbd on 26 October 2015
archer9234 said:
bdbdbd said:
archer9234 said:
bdbdbd said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pokemon is kiddy. Say whatever you want, but the amount of 20 somethings that would actually buy a home console for Pokemon is few and far between. You guys represent the vocal minority.

Nintendo's next console much appeal to a wider audience than the one they already have, which is, the Pokemon audience.


Actually the biggest problem Pokemon (games) has, is that the vast majority of it's audience is 20 somethings. But you're damn right about the need for Pokemon to appeal to a wider audience - if it doesn't capture the sub-15 year olds, the franchise is going to be niche in a decade.

The anime is what does that part.


I know. That's why I said "games". It really doesn't help much if kids watch the Pokemon anime and play Growtopia and Minecraft. However, Pokemon Rumble and the likes are much more accessible than the main Pokemon games (that are huge turnoffs for many due to being too complex).

Too complex, yeah right. If Pokemon is too complex. Than Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy would of had the same problem, in the past. The problem really is if kids even pay attetion to the games/show in the first place.


Well, I believe Pokemon RPG's have sold so far more than all Square RPG's combined - so yes, what you said might hold the truth in it. The basic consept of Pokemon is easy to understand and simple, but the games have become more and more bloated and heavy on text. Surely, RPG as a genre isn't as accessible as, say, platformer, but that just supports my point.



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Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

Frogger on 26 October 2015
lonerism said:

Errrr, why not? You sound so certain that a Pokemon MMO would fail

So you are saying that GameFreak should stay using the same formula over and over again?

People went NUTS with Pokemon GO, they are excited for a new game instead of the same crap every year


No, I'm saying it should evolve in a way that isn't an MMO.

I'd love to see how durable that excitement is when Go launches.



bdbdbd on 26 October 2015
spemanig said:
lonerism said:

Errrr, why not? You sound so certain that a Pokemon MMO would fail

So you are saying that GameFreak should stay using the same formula over and over again?

People went NUTS with Pokemon GO, they are excited for a new game instead of the same crap every year


No, I'm saying it should evolve in a way that isn't an MMO.

I'd love to see how durable that excitement is when Go launches.

 

I see Pokemon Go is an augmented reality game... I don't think it really has legs after "the first two days". It's just that nobody seems to be interested in AR.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

archer9234 on 26 October 2015
bdbdbd said:
archer9234 said:
bdbdbd said:
archer9234 said:
bdbdbd said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pokemon is kiddy. Say whatever you want, but the amount of 20 somethings that would actually buy a home console for Pokemon is few and far between. You guys represent the vocal minority.

Nintendo's next console much appeal to a wider audience than the one they already have, which is, the Pokemon audience.


Actually the biggest problem Pokemon (games) has, is that the vast majority of it's audience is 20 somethings. But you're damn right about the need for Pokemon to appeal to a wider audience - if it doesn't capture the sub-15 year olds, the franchise is going to be niche in a decade.

The anime is what does that part.


I know. That's why I said "games". It really doesn't help much if kids watch the Pokemon anime and play Growtopia and Minecraft. However, Pokemon Rumble and the likes are much more accessible than the main Pokemon games (that are huge turnoffs for many due to being too complex).

Too complex, yeah right. If Pokemon is too complex. Than Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy would of had the same problem, in the past. The problem really is if kids even pay attetion to the games/show in the first place.


Well, I believe Pokemon RPG's have sold so far more than all Square RPG's combined - so yes, what you said might hold the truth in it. The basic consept of Pokemon is easy to understand and simple, but the games have become more and more bloated and heavy on text. Surely, RPG as a genre isn't as accessible as, say, platformer, but that just supports my point.

But then you're saying Kids are more lazy at reading over the years. Who's fault is that? Parents or Pokemon. It's not like Pokemon started talking about Lumbar Punctures.