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Forums - Gaming - Canadian Prime Minister: 'we need to fight GamerGate and videogame misogyny'

 

Agree with the Canadian Prime Minister?

Yes 37 16.59%
 
No 138 61.88%
 
I couldn't care less 47 21.08%
 
Total:222

He's just a politician taking a wild stab at something he knows nothing about.

It's the quickest way you can tell if you're dealing with someone of principles or just good old demagogue.

It's incredibly disheartening how much general stupidity I see from the left-wing nowadays. The crazy politically correct culture we've ended up with has created legions of people who are desperate to look like they believe the right things, who don't really care about understanding anything or fixing anything.

Depictions of women in games is pretty good in western games nowadays. Japanese games can be a bit crazy from time to time with the insane amount of sexualizing. Very hard to do anything about that though, there's such a big cultural gap.



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Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

I didn't realise that GamerGate was still rumbling on. Been trying to avoid it as much as possible.

Anyone who is pro feminism and the like though is good, and I'm sure though the example given here is poor the message is strong.



 

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Conegamer said:
I didn't realise that GamerGate was still rumbling on. Been trying to avoid it as much as possible.

Anyone who is pro feminism and the like though is good, and I'm sure though the example given here is poor the message is strong.


Speaking of pro feminism, what does that mean exactly? Equal rights, sure. But what particular rights?



Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
I didn't realise that GamerGate was still rumbling on. Been trying to avoid it as much as possible.

Anyone who is pro feminism and the like though is good, and I'm sure though the example given here is poor the message is strong.


Speaking of pro feminism, what does that mean exactly? Equal rights, sure. But what particular rights?

Well for starts I don't think anyone, regardless of their gender, sex, ethnicity etc. should be attacked or abused because of who they are. So quite simply a little respect is all that really matters at the end of the day. There's no point attacking someone just because they're different to you if you ask me! 

 

Though ofcourse the whole connection to videogames is a non issue anyway for the most part. But that's not this topic IMO. 



 

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For me i am less worried about so called SJW effect on games, because frankly if games are shit they wont sell, and if they dont sell they either change back to what does sell or the publisher dissappears.

I am more worried however about the dangerous model of dealing with the situation people are setting.
As it stands if you so much as question a woman or feminists rhetoric on twitter you are labeled a mysoginist, gamergater or outright terrorist, what the model and response structure does is allow heavy manipulation of the public by squashing any questioning of rhetoric in a whitewash of labels

If a woman or feminist, or even just someone who upholds SJW ideals finds issue with someone, this structure is systematically abused to turn the media and thus, public opinion against the person they find issue with, this has been demonstrated multiple times over the past year and seems to be only growing in frequency.

Freedom of expression and free speech are playing second fiddle to political correctness gone crazy, and the manipulation of those both in control of, and on the side of, the media.



Conegamer said:
Lawlight said:


Speaking of pro feminism, what does that mean exactly? Equal rights, sure. But what particular rights?

Well for starts I don't think anyone, regardless of their gender, sex, ethnicity etc. should be attacked or abused because of who they are. So quite simply a little respect is all that really matters at the end of the day. There's no point attacking someone just because they're different to you if you ask me! 

 

Though ofcourse the whole connection to videogames is a non issue anyway for the most part. But that's not this topic IMO. 

How is that specifically related to women? This applies to anyone.



Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:

Well for starts I don't think anyone, regardless of their gender, sex, ethnicity etc. should be attacked or abused because of who they are. So quite simply a little respect is all that really matters at the end of the day. There's no point attacking someone just because they're different to you if you ask me! 

 

Though ofcourse the whole connection to videogames is a non issue anyway for the most part. But that's not this topic IMO. 

How is that specifically related to women? This applies to anyone.

I'm not. That's the point. I am talking about everyone

No point labelling something as OK for one group but not right for another IMO.



 

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I am no feminist but I agree with him regarding GG, and to some degree regarding the other issue. I want more diversity in games and I personally want misogony to go away (it all depends on the context of the game though). But I mainly want game developers to have a high degree of freedom to develop games the way they want them to be.



Puppyroach said:
I am no feminist but I agree with him regarding GG, and to some degree regarding the other issue. I want more diversity in games and I personally want misogony to go away (it all depends on the context of the game though). But I mainly want game developers to have a high degree of freedom to develop games the way they want them to be.

Fighting GG does not give developers freedom, it empowers those "offended" by elements of games to prevent developers from putting in the content they want, which is the exact opposite of what you say you want.