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Azuren on 07 October 2015
SpokenTruth said:
Azuren said:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fusion-misattributes-racist-quote-to-donald-trump/article/2567872

 

Get your facts straight, or it will just make you out to be ignorant. 

And the rest of them are all false too I presume?  He didn't call Mexicans drug dealers, killers and rapists?

As for the quote itself, his former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino heard him say it.  And when confronted about it,
Trump says. "And here I am. The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true."  So he didn't even deny it.

First of all he pointed out that rapists and criminals were crossing the border, and that not everyone crossing is. But taking stuff out of context works, too, I guess. 

 

And did you finish reading the article? Trump DID deny it, and confirmed that the one who wrote the book was a disgruntled employee who was fired because he couldn't do his job. 



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Lawlight on 09 October 2015
SpokenTruth said:
Aeolus451 said:


This is what I was talking about before. You were not just saying that about trump but about anyone that will vote for him or likes him. You basically have no arguement about the topics or issues themselves so you attack other people's character or in other words resort to sly personal attacks. 

I have every bit of interest on racism but I don't pander to any side or race because of misguided sympathy or undue guilt. I believe that all forms of racism should be publically denounced and punished but barely anyone is up for it. 

Doing something for or against someone just because of their race is true racism. Reverse racism is allowed for some reason and it's unchecked with a lot of minorities. There's so much hypocrisy surrounding racism that it's sickening.  . I have no sympathy for any race about racism when they're hypocrites about it. I'm tired of the bullshit. 

Privilage as you say it is false. It's a ploy to discredit the majority, to guilt trip people into agreeing with anything and to create a "us versus them" mentality. 

If you want to talk about political issues or about a particular bit of trump's political beliefs, I'm fine with it but I'm done discussing hyperbole like white privilage.

You do realize these comments validate everything I just said, don't you?  You're not even aware of it.

And you're still not understanding the difference between the subtle institutional racism and the overt one race hates another race racism (where you keep referring to reverse racism). 

Let's take one of Trump's comments, shall we?
“Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it.”


Now let's imagine a black man running for president said it but replace the race.
“Laziness is a trait in the whites. ... White guys counting my money! I hate it.”


Absolute and total vilification from the media and society in general.  But a billionaire white guy?  You just shrugged it off like it was no big deal and still want to vote for the guy.  How many people would vote for the black guy if he said that?

 

thranx said:

ha ha ha ha ha . Can't believe people actually believe this stuff. Ha ha ha

You just proved it's warranted.


You're wrong. A minority saying something like that is accepted. A white person saying that is not allowed.



generic-user-1 on 14 October 2015

trump should sue disney....

"The elder Trump operated hotels and restaurants in the Klondike during the Klondike Gold Rush."

"Although a self-made millionaire, Trump was known for his frugality, saving unused nails, doing his own extermination work and mixing his own floor cleaners. Nevertheless, he insisted on buying a new navy blue Cadillac every three years, with license plate "FCT".[6] By the time of his death, Trump was estimated to have amassed a fortune worth $250 to $300 million."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

hm sounds alot like a disney character that has a relative named donald...



ICStats on 14 October 2015
Game_God said:
ICStats said:
I can't vote, and I wouldn't vote for any of the Republican candidates, but if Trump got the seat and enacted his tax plan, I'd save a load of money.


Yeah, that's what uneducated people who don't make the effort to actually look about what he is raving about think too... you get less taxes with Trump, but the little money that you get out of it, is easily swallowed by the new bills that spring from the tax cuts...

What bills are those?  Explain your statement.

I'm only half serious.  I think I would save about $15k in taxes (high income bracket).  His tax plan is unrealistic, as is with the details he's given it would run a huge deficit by reducing taxes on the rich.



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Game_God on 14 October 2015
ICStats said:
Game_God said:


Yeah, that's what uneducated people who don't make the effort to actually look about what he is raving about think too... you get less taxes with Trump, but the little money that you get out of it, is easily swallowed by the new bills that spring from the tax cuts...

What bills are those?  Explain your statement.

I'm only half serious.  I think I would save about $15k in taxes (high income bracket).  His tax plan is unrealistic, as is with the details he's given it would run a huge deficit by reducing taxes on the rich.

Easy, when you cut taxes, Gov. has less $$, look around you what is sustained by Gov. $$ that you rely on. What is funny with Trump but not him only, all GOP agree on that, is that they don't want a cent spent on basic, essantial needs of the vast majority of struggling american workers, but somewhat find that same $$ to offer to the already indecent out of this world vastly wealthy Americans, you know the 1% & now 0.1%!



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generic-user-1 on 14 October 2015
Game_God said:
ICStats said:
Game_God said:


Yeah, that's what uneducated people who don't make the effort to actually look about what he is raving about think too... you get less taxes with Trump, but the little money that you get out of it, is easily swallowed by the new bills that spring from the tax cuts...

What bills are those?  Explain your statement.

I'm only half serious.  I think I would save about $15k in taxes (high income bracket).  His tax plan is unrealistic, as is with the details he's given it would run a huge deficit by reducing taxes on the rich.

Easy, when you cut taxes, Gov. has less $$, look around you what is sustained by Gov. $$ that you rely on. What is funny with Trump but not him only, all GOP agree on that, is that they don't want a cent spent on basic, essantial needs of the vast majority of struggling american workers, but somewhat find that same $$ to offer to the already indecent out of this world vastly wealthy Americans, you know the 1% & now 0.1%!

na, trump doesnt care about those wallstreet guys. hes the only okayish guy in the gop. he doesnt want to fuck the middleclass anymore.

but well he is a christian(the onlyreal  in the race, most are lesser christians, and rubio isnt even christian at all), not a good christian(he doesnt show that he is chosen by helping poor people), but a christian after all



ICStats on 14 October 2015
generic-user-1 said:
Game_God said:
ICStats said:

What bills are those?  Explain your statement.

I'm only half serious.  I think I would save about $15k in taxes (high income bracket).  His tax plan is unrealistic, as is with the details he's given it would run a huge deficit by reducing taxes on the rich.

Easy, when you cut taxes, Gov. has less $$, look around you what is sustained by Gov. $$ that you rely on. What is funny with Trump but not him only, all GOP agree on that, is that they don't want a cent spent on basic, essantial needs of the vast majority of struggling american workers, but somewhat find that same $$ to offer to the already indecent out of this world vastly wealthy Americans, you know the 1% & now 0.1%!

na, trump doesnt care about those wallstreet guys. hes the only okayish guy in the gop. he doesnt want to fuck the middleclass anymore.

but well he is a christian(the onlyreal  in the race, most are lesser christians, and rubio isnt even christian at all), not a good christian(he doesnt show that he is chosen by helping poor people), but a christian after all

GOP including Trump is good at giving tax cuts to the rich while making people think they are looking out for the middleclass.

$0  taxes for the bottom 20%.  They already pay almost nothing, so doesn't change their life.

Small changes for the middle class.

Big tax cuts for the rich (up to %15 tax cut to those earning $250k or more).  The more income you have the more you benefit from Trump taxes.



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generic-user-1 on 14 October 2015
ICStats said:
generic-user-1 said:
Game_God said:
ICStats said:

What bills are those?  Explain your statement.

I'm only half serious.  I think I would save about $15k in taxes (high income bracket).  His tax plan is unrealistic, as is with the details he's given it would run a huge deficit by reducing taxes on the rich.

Easy, when you cut taxes, Gov. has less $$, look around you what is sustained by Gov. $$ that you rely on. What is funny with Trump but not him only, all GOP agree on that, is that they don't want a cent spent on basic, essantial needs of the vast majority of struggling american workers, but somewhat find that same $$ to offer to the already indecent out of this world vastly wealthy Americans, you know the 1% & now 0.1%!

na, trump doesnt care about those wallstreet guys. hes the only okayish guy in the gop. he doesnt want to fuck the middleclass anymore.

but well he is a christian(the onlyreal  in the race, most are lesser christians, and rubio isnt even christian at all), not a good christian(he doesnt show that he is chosen by helping poor people), but a christian after all

GOP including Trump is good at giving tax cuts to the rich while making people think they are looking out for the middleclass.

$0  taxes for the bottom 20%.  They already pay almost nothing, so doesn't change their life.

Small changes for the middle class.

Big tax cuts for the rich (up to %15 tax cut to those earning $250k or more).  The more income you have the more you benefit from Trump taxes.

trump is still better than the average GOP candidates, thats the problem.  hes not more racist than bush and his taxes arent more retarded than any others,

the gop is the stupid party, what do you expect?



Veknoid_Outcast on 15 October 2015

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