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Jimbo1337 said:
Game_God said:


Here's a pro tip, learn to read! So I repeat: Tunnel vision is a great affliction...

You should follow your own advice


That is what I did 35 years ago, thank you!



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Game_God said:
Jimbo1337 said:

You should follow your own advice


That is what I did 35 years ago, thank you!

I am glad I could help you understand



Jimbo1337 said:
Game_God said:


That is what I did 35 years ago, thank you!

I am glad I could help you understand


Really glad to read that from you, all is clear now!



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SpokenTruth said:
Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land.

Agreed. However he is slightly left-winged when it comes to "class." He wants to tax the rich more so that he can lower taxes for the middle class (really he wants to tax them more so that he has less competition.) He also supports a single-payer health-care system. (Not that these are merits in my opinion, just wanted to note that he is more left in the economic field than most people think.) 

If somebody is interested in a more libertarian/conservative economic enivronment, but also doesn't want to vote for a bigot they can vote for Ben Carson (neutral) or Rand Paul (talks about liberalizing immigration laws, and how the drug war/police state disproportionately target minority groups.) 



If i were an american i would vote for a democrat and not a warmongerer republican



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asqarkabab said:
If i were an american i would vote for a democrat and not a warmongerer republican

Because Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would be/are so much more peaceful internationally than Rand Paul and Ben Carson. /sarcasm  Hillary is as warhawkish as the likes of John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Obama definitely didn't see any issue with continuing and even expanding many of Bush's practices. Democrats and Republicans are cut from the same cloth. Sure there is a rare Bernie Sanders, Paul, etc that isn't a warhawk, but that is one thing both parties are in cohesion about. They love war and the patriot act. 



asqarkabab said:
If i were an american i would vote for a democrat and not a warmongerer republican

 

Those decisions are not handled by the President. There is a reason why the United States helped to destabilize both Libya and Syria during the Obama administration. This quagmire started as the Carter Doctrine, continued as the Reagan Doctrine with both Bush Jr. and Obama towing the line. No offense but you are naive to think that electing a Democrat will solve the nation's foreign policy problems when that is verifiably untrue. American democracy is a joke and politicians are no longer the primary policy makers (they haven't been for decades). Your nation is ruled by powerful organizations such as the CIA and foreign powers such as Saudi Arabia and an election can not change that. We are on the precipice of a global conflict (World War III if you will) and no Democrat is going to be able to escape this reality. You are going to side with the Sunni Islamofascists while Russia, China and India continue to court the Shiite nations creating two clearly delineated sides for the next global war. Again, the Democrats aren't magicians, they can not stop these events from unfolding and they will simply obey orders as we do what is necessary to win.



I'm not voting for him, but wish to see him do well enough to get into the Presidential debates so I can laugh.



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SpokenTruth said:
Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land.


Hyperbole. So you're saying in one or another that anyone who votes for trump is a racist, bigot, ignorant, full of hatred/greed and believes in classism? I can understand if someone dislikes trump because of who is a person or his tv personality or his political beliefs but don't go around trying to paint anyone who would vote for him as a racist or something other bullshit. If other people in this thread can debate like mature adults, so can you.



SpokenTruth said:
Aeolus451 said:
SpokenTruth said:
Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land.


Hyperbole. So you're saying in one or another that anyone who votes for trump is a racist, bigot, ignorant, full of hatred/greed and believes in classism? I can understand if someone dislikes trump because of who is a person or his tv personality or his political beliefs but don't go around trying to paint anyone who would vote for him as a racist or something other bullshit. If other people in this thread can debate like mature adults, so can you.

Would you mind reading my post again?  I called Donald Trump as such, not the voters themselves though they would be endorsing it as officially sanctioned ideologies.

You don't have to be racist to vote for a racist however, once said racist is in power, that ideology becomes sanctioned at the highest office. 

"Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land."

You didn't outright say it but you insinuated it and that is just the same in my book. Regardlless, you're making baseless claims about his character instead of attacking his political beliefs directly.