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GribbleGrunger on 23 October 2015
Pionner said:
Wow did you miss my post from before? It seems you did. Your thinking would only apply if TLoU (and Destiny) bundle situation happened at every store. But it isn't. Basing the month off of a simple stock issue at one retailer and one console doesn't make a good prediction. Yes this is a Amazon thread but you're generalising something that's not true anywhere else. Why so focused on that one console? Then you bring up the spacing in the monthly as if that means anything in regards to that bundle. A bundle where sales will be picked up elsewhere.

No disrespect to you at all. You're cool people. I just don't like when Amazon is used the wrong way to predict NPD and then everyone gets disappointed when NPD result don't turn out the way they expected then blame Amazon and claim it's useless and shouldn't be used.

I can agree that other retailers have stock and so Amazon could be wrong this month. It has been wrong one other time and so it's not unprecedented. We can't ignore the excellent Amazon record though and we can't ignore the possibility of the Halo Preorders just tipping the ballance. I'm not saying that the Halo bundle will eventually lead in the monthlies, I'm saying that the gap could be small enough (now that the bundle which lead is out of stock) that the preorders will have a more significant role to play this month. Perhaps I shouldn't have expressed my opinion so emphatically because I'm still not 100% certain the XB1 will win, but I'm now FAR more inclined to believe Halo will win and I DO think if they do it will because of the stock shortages of the 'winning' PS4 bundle.

To sum up: I think Amazon will show a PS4 win for this month, but whether it keeps its close to 100% record entirely depends on whether the Halo preorders are lower than expected and other retailers have more than made up for the loss of the winning bundle on Amazon. I said to another poster much earlier in this thread that his assessment of the Halo bundle was entirely based on 'what if' and that my assessment was entirely based on 'what is' but now it's come full circle and it's the PS4 that stands solidly on the 'what if' side.



 

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GribbleGrunger on 23 October 2015

3 hours since last update:

#11 PS4 Nathan Drake Bundle (same)*
#17 XB1 Halo Bundle (same)*<-
#26 PS4 Star Wars Bundle (same)
#46 PS4 Black Ops Bundle (same)
#63 XB1 Gears Bundle (up 5)*<-
#66 PS4 Star Wars Standard Bundle (up 6)
#77 XB1 Forza Bundle (up 8)*<-
#83 PS4 TLOUR Bundle (down 6)*
#93 PS4 Destiny Bundle (down 7)*

*Affects this month

PS4 - 6 bundles, 6 in the top 100
XB1 - 9 bundles, 3 in the top 100

<- Note that now it's the XB1 that has more consoles that affect this month above the PS4 bundles and it's just the Nathan Drake bundle holding the top spot with the two PS4 bundles that affected sales are now slipping out of the top 100.



 

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betacon on 23 October 2015
jason1637 said:
CosmicSex said:


I think my prediction was at least 3 million by the end of the year.


Thats to low i predict atleast 6 million by the end of the year and x1 should have a userbase of 19 (maybe 20 if its lucky) million so around 30% sounds good.

I really doubt it will sell 6 million by the end of the year.



UltimateGamer1982 on 23 October 2015

Best buy has around 20 stores in about a hundred mile radius when I type my zip code in and all have plenty of stock of the destiny bundle. My nearest Best Buy also usually has at least two destiny bundles on the shelves when I go there once a week. The supply issue might just be an Amazon thing. Not sure.




GribbleGrunger on 23 October 2015
UltimateGamer1982 said:
Best buy has around 20 stores in about a hundred mile radius when I type my zip code in and all have plenty of stock of the destiny bundle. My nearest Best Buy also usually has at least two destiny bundles on the shelves when I go there once a week. The supply issue might just be an Amazon thing. Not sure.


It's probaly an Amazon thing but I want Amazon to retain its near 100% record!



 

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UltimateGamer1982 on 23 October 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:
Best buy has around 20 stores in about a hundred mile radius when I type my zip code in and all have plenty of stock of the destiny bundle. My nearest Best Buy also usually has at least two destiny bundles on the shelves when I go there once a week. The supply issue might just be an Amazon thing. Not sure.


It's probaly an Amazon thing but I want Amazon to retain its near 100% record!

Same here, but the Best Buy and GameStop trade in promos might put a kink in that.

And even if ps4 does somehow manage to win October, it most likely won't be by much at all. The real challenge will be next month and December. And if we see similar offers like the one from dell this Black Friday, I'm starting to feel Xbox will take it again. 

 



GribbleGrunger on 23 October 2015
UltimateGamer1982 said:

Same here, but the Best Buy and GameStop trade in promos might put a kink in that.

And even if ps4 does somehow manage to win October, it most likely won't be by much at all. The real challenge will be next month and December. And if we see similar offers like the one from dell this Black Friday, I'm starting to feel Xbox will take it again. 

 

Preorders for the Star Wars and Black Ops bundle have been consistanly high and Sony will have deals to match the XB1 deals for Black Friday. November is an easy win for PS4 as far as I'm concerned. The PS4 has a big lead before we even enter the month.

Have you noticed how the XB1 monthly strategy is a microcosm of the yearly strategy? Nothing for the first 3/4 and then go all out in the last 1/4. Halo this month, Black Friday next month.



 

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Abun on 23 October 2015

PS4 higher at Gamestop,Bestbuy and Walmart so it is not just Amazon.
This fits what I have seen ins stores.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?nrp=15&cp=1&seeAll=&browsedCategory=abcat0700000&qp=&ks=960&sp=-bestsellingsort%20skuidsaas&sc=Global&list=y&usc=All%20Categories&type=page&id=pcat17071&iht=n&st=categoryid%24abcat0700000&lid=Products:%20All%20New%20Releases

http://www.walmart.com/browse/2636_1040579?sort=best_seller&cat_id=2636_1040579

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/consoles?nav=28-xu0,13ffff2412




UltimateGamer1982 on 23 October 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:

Same here, but the Best Buy and GameStop trade in promos might put a kink in that.

And even if ps4 does somehow manage to win October, it most likely won't be by much at all. The real challenge will be next month and December. And if we see similar offers like the one from dell this Black Friday, I'm starting to feel Xbox will take it again. 

 

Preorders for the Star Wars and Black Ops bundle have been consistanly high and Sony will have deals to match the XB1 deals for Black Friday. November is an easy win for PS4 as far as I'm concerned. The PS4 has a big lead before we even enter the month.

Have you noticed how the XB1 monthly strategy is a microcosm of the yearly strategy? Nothing for the first 3/4 and then go all out in the last 1/4. Halo this month, Black Friday next month.

My guess is that's when the biggest possible amount of pr happens and Microsoft wants to look good in the press since ps4 beats them all year in sales. 

But yea, the cod and Star Wars bundles should cancel out any Black Friday deals Microsoft has and with all the pre orders from last month and this month and the next. 



Pionner on 23 October 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
Pionner said:
Wow did you miss my post from before? It seems you did. Your thinking would only apply if TLoU (and Destiny) bundle situation happened at every store. But it isn't. Basing the month off of a simple stock issue at one retailer and one console doesn't make a good prediction. Yes this is a Amazon thread but you're generalising something that's not true anywhere else. Why so focused on that one console? Then you bring up the spacing in the monthly as if that means anything in regards to that bundle. A bundle where sales will be picked up elsewhere.

No disrespect to you at all. You're cool people. I just don't like when Amazon is used the wrong way to predict NPD and then everyone gets disappointed when NPD result don't turn out the way they expected then blame Amazon and claim it's useless and shouldn't be used.

I can agree that other retailers have stock and so Amazon could be wrong this month. It has been wrong one other time and so it's not unprecedented. We can't ignore the excellent Amazon record though and we can't ignore the possibility of the Halo Preorders just tipping the ballance. I'm not saying that the Halo bundle will eventually lead in the monthlies, I'm saying that the gap could be small enough (now that the bundle which lead is out of stock) that the preorders will have a more significant role to play this month. Perhaps I shouldn't have expressed my opinion so emphatically because I'm still not 100% certain the XB1 will win, but I'm now FAR more inclined to believe Halo will win and I DO think if they do it will because of the stock shortages of the 'winning' PS4 bundle.

To sum up: I think Amazon will show a PS4 win for this month, but whether it keeps its close to 100% record entirely depends on whether the Halo preorders are lower than expected and other retailers have more than made up for the loss of the winning bundle on Amazon. I said to another poster much earlier in this thread that his assessment of the Halo bundle was entirely based on 'what if' and that my assessment was entirely based on 'what is' but now it's come full circle and it's the PS4 that stands solidly on the 'what if' side.



Yeah Amazon has a excellent track record and i want that that to continue too. But we can't ignore other possibilities when Amazon might not be correct. By acknowledging them that's actually how the record stays since there would be a clear reason why Amazon didn't match NPD if it happens.

I agree it's still possible for XB1 to win this month. But it's not because TLoU bundle is out of stock at Amazon.

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