That's the thing, though. Who decides who's a real feminist? or a real gamer? or a real fan? No, seriously. Who determines that? What if "real feminism" is not about equality but about women's rights and all the people claiming to be "real feminists" are equalists who see themselves as real feminists? Is there a leader and a committee that makes a decision and tells everyone what a real feminist is supposed to be, like the church tells people how to interpret the bible?

To my knowledge, there are all kinds of feminists. And if you talk to them, every single one feels like they are a real feminist. And the saddest part is, from my experience at least. they fight for women's right and not for equal treatment. They fight against rape of women, while turning a blind eye on all the cases of false accusations of men by women who simply want to hurt them. Or on women who rape men.

Read the article, SHE canceled the appearance, the Cops did not.  Nice try though :)

The SPJ Airplay event, had GG Panelists, Derek Smart, Lynn Walsh, Michael Koretzky and Ren Laforme.  Zero individuals from the other side showed up, or would even agree to discuss it.  So you're telling me that Bomb threats against GG events, are made by GG.  And bomb threats against Anita, Wu and Quinn, are also by GG.  

The problem with that, is A) You can't prove it (Keep in mind, nobody can prove where the threats came from for anyone).  And B)  the SPJ Airplay event was the first time the GG side of the discussion had actually been allowed to speak publicly, so you're telling me they false flagged their only public platform?  Really?  Which was why SPJ/Koretzky got involved in the first place.  When someone claims an entire group is evil, hateful etc, without ever even looking into that group and seeing what they stand for, clearly there's an agenda being pushed.

You've still not provided any evidence to suggest anyone in GG was involved.  Conversely, there's no evidence to suggest anyone from the other side was involved in the bomb threats against GGinDC and SPJ Airplay event.  However, you're more than happy to condemn them all, as violent acts of misogyny from GG.  Clearly, someone has some biases going on.

If somebody claims that they were threatened they have to prove the allegations. Otherwise they have made unverifiable statements without any evidence and that means they probably aren't true. How can you be so gullible?

ugh, not this again. Can't people just learn to deal with assholes online? How about ignoring them? Do we need rules and laws for everything? Seriously. That whole topic got so out of proportions that I barely dare to talk to women at all! I'm scared that it might be offensive!

I've been trying to avoid this topic and hoping it'd just disappear. What's this all about then? Whose making threats or is this just the world's biggest troll?

Completely worthless analogy, not unless you're saying that only females face harassment online.  It's more like two groups are hungry but one group says, "only our group matters; we don't care about you but you should support us."

Having Zoe Quinn speak against harassment is one of the most hilariously ironic things to have come out of this whole mess.

They could try not being vagina's.

I wasn't talking to online harassment only, let's see the big picture. It's possible for one group to have more specific and urgent needs than the other and it doesn't mean they're more important or valid.

That's why many people have a problem with this. Men, or at least most people around the world, know how to deal with these types of things (not taking it super serious, ignoring, laughing it out), but women like Ana and Zoe think that it is directed specifically and exclusively at them and there's something that needs to be done.

They're just oversensitive, selfcentered persons... if we don't give attention, they'll dissapear of reality with a "poof!"  of magic powder and be another dimensions trouble... Trust me, I've been through that.