I'm not being silly. Again this is plenty of time to develop games. Your point is invalid. Here's a list of consoles that gave third parties roughly the same time to get ready for launch: Every single console and handheld ever released. Nintendo did talk to third parties already, they just didn't publicly announce it. How exactly did things work for the 3DS launch in your opinion? I'm not trying to get into an argument here, but devs have enough time to prepare for launch. Especially considering AMD's comments about a contract with a big console manufacturer. NX is probably going to be rather similar to PS4 and Xbox One in power and architecture. Let's look at the evidence:

- Zelda absent from e3 despite being shown last year, no Retro game shown for Wii U

- Pikmin 4 "almost done" but not shown: Why? 

- Nintendo talking about NX in 2015 and announcing more infos in 2016 (same timeframe as DS, Wii, 3DS)

- Square Enix pretty much confirming Dragon Quest for NX, then rewording their statement (probably because of an embargo)

- Moore's Law points to a 2016 NX home console that is *exactly* as powerful as PS4 / XOne 

- 2016 would be strategically better: Read Soundwaves posts on this 

- Wii U will be pretty much dead by late 2016. Nintendo is in this for the money and they'll have a horrible 2016 without a new console 

- No initiatives from Nintendo to give the Wii U new life: Clear sign they are sitting this out and cutting their losses

- AMD hinted months ago at a big contract with a console manufacturer. They wouldn't do that 2.5 years in advance! 

- Lots of 3DS games in development but only a handful of Wii U titles 

I want to see actual evidence pointing *against* a 2016 launch. Something other than "We hardcore gamers would be upset! Nintendo is pulling a SEGA". I don't see any evidence in favor of a 2017 launch: No big software support, no console redesign, no price cut. Nintendo isn't pushing the console at all. They have no time to wait till late 2017. And there's one more crucial factor: If NX releases in 2017, then the 4DS will release in late 2018! That's way too late as the 3DS will be dead by then. Nintendo would kill their hardware market with that move. (And yes, NX is a home console. Reggie said "our next home console, NX".)

Well, I said that you were being silly, because you're assuming that everyone who believes that NX will be released in 2017 doesn't want it to launch earlier. That's not the case. I'd love to be wrong, but I still think it'll launch in 2017. Everything you said it's just especulation and rumours. We'll know soon enough. If nintendo will launch its next home console next year, then we should hear more concrete leaks in the beginning of the year. 

The hardware isnt even finalised yet. Game development isnt that fast. I'm sure they have started preparing, but i'm also sure nothing will be ready for another 2 years.

If they rush the launch as you sugest, prepare for another long drought. The Wii U had that long drought besides beeing on 2 E3s before launching. Your strategy for them spells disaster imo.

They haven't said what it is and nintendo hasn't done any marketing on it yet. If NX is a home console, it will need whatever major nintendo games they can throw into the launch to have any chance for it to turn out good. If the release zelda on it instead, they could "bother" some of the nintendo fans. Also the majority of nintendo home console's gen lasted 5 years til the previous one released and the new one released. Nintendo hasn't deviated from that launch pattern in a long time. The wii u released at the tail end of 2012. So 2016 is too early even if you count releasing at the end of 2012 as a full year. 2017 or 2018 are the likely launch period.

Big titles...
Big sales...

2016 is the latest is must be released, and at least two different devices for the sake of the project.

How you know that hardware isnt finished yet, even isnt finished yet it can be finished in near future. We had that Digitimes infos that Nintendo will start mass producing new hardware in beginning of the 2016.

"Japan-based Nintendo is planning to launch its next-generation games console in 2016 and has recently asked its supply chain partners to start pilot production in October, at the latest.to start pilot production in October, at the latest.. The orders are expected to be finalized in February or March 2016 and mass production will start in May or June 2016"

I didn't said that they will rush launch and I dont see why would we have another drought!? Like I said we will have new Mario 3D, new Retro and probably Next Level game, it very likely that other teams are working on NX titles to. Wii U is completely different story, first HD console (they had losta problems with HD devolepment) and they had to save 3DS too with strong titles, NX will not have those problems.

Why would they need to make any marketing if console is arriving in 15 months!? If they start marketing NX 3DS and Wii U sales would completely stopped right before holiday season, it would be pretty stupid decision. We didn't have any marketing for PS4 and XboxOne too in that time.

They will have new 3D Mario for launch and Zelda U port, Retros game for launch of first year, sales go for Next Level game.

Yes, Wii U will probably have 4 years life span instead 5, one year less isnt big deal if we have worst selling Nintendo console ever. Like I said, maybe we can have new hardware in 2017 (but all points that in 2016 we are getting new hardware), but there is no chance that Nintendo will keep Wii U till 2018. without successor.

Could be, yes. But it could also very well be a title to round out next years Wii U release shedule. And I would agree, next year looks a little bare, but that's been the story the whole gen with Wii U. A handful of amazing titles, and a hand full of smaller titles.

I've read his posts, and it they don't really point to any real advantage in releasing in 2016. He offers an opinion that the need more multiplats at the sacrifice of possible weaker hardware which in my opinion would be a massive misstep.

Some evedence they aren't going to release in 2017? How about a pretty much similar release schedule as every other year. How about the fact that the NX hasn't even been officially announced yet. How about the fact that Nintendo has only recently got with third parties about the NX (E3 seems to be the exact time), and doubt they'd pull a launch with LESS titles than the Wii U (which actually had quite a bit of third party support, sad they were year old + games everyone already had and performed worse than the PS360 counterparts). In the next Direct they could easily announce a console redesign and price cut, that's really no big deal.

On the last point, the handheld could very much be a part of the console, in that case they would release together. 

I think NX will be an hybrid console that'll include portable & home console all in 1 machine.

My prediction is that they will announce it in next E3 and release it by november this year. But only the handled part of the combo. Then in 2017 release the WiiU succesor that will work as a piece of the NX project