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sethnintendo on 12 September 2015
Scisca said:
sethnintendo said:


Hmmmm.... Let me guess how the Vita is supported = shit.  Nintendo will surpass that Vita with SMM. Sony let Vita to die even though they could have done better.


Say what? Vita support is shit? You have no idea what you're talking about. I know that Sony hasn't been supporting the console for a year now, but it hasn't changed a thing, Wii U still can't catch up! You know why? Cause Vita has strong 3rd party support - but I guess Nintendo fans have no idea what that is :P There are many, many great and exciting games coming to Vita and it is very safe to say that 3rd parties will stay with Vita longer than Nintendo is going to stay with Wii U. And without Nintendo, Wii U has absolutely nothing.

Vita gets a constant stream of very good games. We get new games every single week. Do you really think I care if the next great Vita game is made by Sony or somebody else? Out of 18 retail games I own, only 3 are made by Sony! Just now and in the upcoming months I have to buy Danganronpa: Another Episode, Resident Evil: Revelations 2, Trails of Cold Steel, Warhammer 40k: Space Hulk and a handful other games. I'm also waiting for Digimon. And TGS is coming. And all the indies, and aaagh!!! My poor wallet :(

And what if the rumours about Civilisation Revolution 2, X-com and Assassin's Creed do materialize? And let's not forget about World of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Minecraft: Story Mode...

 

Wii U will lose this fight, because it will be killed swiftly very soon, while Vita will keep on selling for years. Thing won't even be close in the very end.

So your argument agianst me is that Sony has third party support.  I will take it to my burning grave.  Sony will not outsell the Wii U with the Vita.



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BlowoverKing on 12 September 2015
sethnintendo said:
BlowoverKing said:


Wut. Are you trying to say that now that Super Mario Maker is out the Wii U will finally outsell the Vita? 


Yes that is excactly what I am saying.  What the fuck does the Vita have?  Nothing.  If the Wii U can't outsell the Vita by the end of April 2015 then i will gladly bow down.


Welp you might want to bow down since this is what VGC had the Wii U and Vita at as of April 25th, 2015.

PSV 39,179 (+2%) 11,722,655
WiiU 31,900 (+2%) 9,544,228

Besides Vita has already proven that it doesn't need jack shit from Sony to outsell the Wii U. 



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Scisca on 12 September 2015
sethnintendo said:

So your argument agianst me is that Sony has third party support.  I will take it to my burning grave.  Sony will not outsell the Wii U with the Vita.


You know you're being ridiculous? Sony is outselling Wii U with the Vita. Deal with it.



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johnsobas on 13 September 2015
BlowoverKing said:
sethnintendo said:


Welp you might want to bow down since this is what VGC had the Wii U and Vita at as of April 25th, 2015.

PSV 39,179 (+2%) 11,722,655
WiiU 31,900 (+2%) 9,544,228

Besides Vita has already proven that it doesn't need jack shit from Sony to outsell the Wii U. 


vgchartz numbers especially for vita are a joke, look at april 4th.



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BlowoverKing on 13 September 2015
johnsobas said:
BlowoverKing said:

vgchartz numbers especially for vita are a joke, look at april 4th.

Of course they were a joke, the Vita was massively undertracked then. Hell I don't believe VGC's numbers for any console are even close to correct either way. I was poking fun since he obviously meant 2016 not 2015.

 



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KBG29 on 13 September 2015
kinisking said:
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It is really up to what Sony decides to do with Vita. If they bring PlayStation Vue, PlayStation Music, and PlayStation Video streaming to PlayStation Vita and PlayStation TV, then sales will pick up quite a bit. Then, if the ooVoo update ever comes, and Video, Voice, and Text messaging to any connected device or landline is a reality, then the sales will make a huge leap. Finally, if they come out with a 4G model, then, PS4 itself may have to start looking over its shoulder.

Vita has many options to leap forward in sales, and is just outside of a market where the big boys can sell more than 50M units in a quarter. WiiU, has no awnser to the versatility of PS4 & XBO, or ever something like Amazon Fire, Chromecast, or the new Apple TV.

I am going to say Vita wins this war, and in the end it won't be close.

Eh can't see vita sales increasing much from any of those. Every one of them besides for ps music would be better on ps4 

PlayStation Vue would be a huge boost for the device alone. If they put Vue on PlayStation TV, it can replace a cable box, and add a huge amount of functionality to additional TV's in most households. Vue on Vita, ecspecially if linked with a new 4G Vita would be the ultimate mobile streaming device. PlayStation Video lets you take your payed for TV and Movies to the bedroom, and on the go. Like you said though, PlayStation Music on the Vita would be the biggest addition to the mobile side of the platform. 

I do agree that all of this is better on PlayStation 4, but more and more people are using their mobile devices or streaming boxes for these things, so Sony should adapt to the market demands. Personally, I use my PS4 whenever possible, but sometimes someone else is using the TV, or I am at work, so I have to fall back to the PS TV or my 3G Vita Phone. 



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Jumpin on 13 September 2015
PotentHerbs said:

Can the WiiU outsell the PS Vita?


Nope, but NX will very likely outsell it quickly.



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LipeJJ on 13 September 2015

Of course, the PSV actually always sells better than Wii U during the whole year, but on holidays Wii U surpass its sales and ends the year above it. Actually, this year's difference is smaller than last years.



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Mr Puggsly on 13 September 2015
sethnintendo said:
Mr Puggsly said:
It really depends on how long they are supported I guess. I mean Wii U could take the lead eventually, but Vita might take the lead back.

Nintendo wants to release another home console eventually. While Vita may keep selling because Sony doesn't want to launch a new handheld console.


Hmmmm.... Let me guess how the Vita is supported = shit.  Nintendo will surpass that Vita with SMM. Sony let Vita to die even though they could have done better.

Vita's support is underwhelming for most consumers. Unless you really enjoy ports of digital releases and Japanese games, there isn't much to get excited about these days. Which is why its become a niche platform.

Meanwhile the Wii U has outstanding exclusives, but not many want to buy that stupid machine to play those great games.

Sony could have done better with support on Vita and Nintendo could have done better at making a home console people actually want. People don't want to buy an expensive Nintendo console, that tablet killed potential success for Wii U.



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bunchanumbers on 13 September 2015

Wii U could easily outsell Vita. Its just that Nintendo would rather be profitable than worry about moving consoles. And that makes sense.