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The Wii U will close the gap and potentially pass the Vita, but the lead may not be sustainable with the announcement of the next generation Nintendo console imminent and the presumably long Vita shelf-life.

Nintendo has been relatively conservative with the Wii U release calendar. Even with sluggish console sales, games like New Super Mario Bros. U, Mario Kart 8, The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker HD, and Super Smash Bros. are financially safe releases. We even had a few niche titles like Pikmin 3 and Kirby and the Rainbow Curse. But everything changed with Splatoon. Splatoon revitalized the Wii U game library and appealed to an entirely new demographic; the last shooter I remember Nintendo pushing was Goldeneye 007 for the N64. Super Mario Maker is poised to be Nintendo's answer to Minecraft and I expect it to have an even greater influence than Splatoon. These are the types of games that will retain the fanbase and interest new players.

The Wii U is also in the midst of a remarkably strong release calendar. Although StarFox Zero and Yoshi's Woolly World probably won't have the appeal of Splatoon and Super Mario Maker or the sales consistency of Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros., I expect them to sell at least 1 million copies each. Xenoblade Chronicles X will sell modestly. Together these games will generate Wii U sales.

Watch out Vita, it's going to be a big holiday for the Wii U.



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Kresnik said:

Goodness, it's been a while since I've seen a topic about this excellent battle!

I remember back in the day all the praise Wii U used to get and all the flak Vita got.  Things like WiiU selling under 7m in 2013 was met with ridicule.  Then we had all sorts of "When will Wii U outsell Vita?" threads like this one and this one.  Check through for some humorous replies.  I sadly can't find my favourite thread (although I'm sure people will remember it) where the general consensus seemed to be that Wii U would sell 3 x more than Vita in 2013.

The threads even resurfaced last year in the race to 10m.

I have to give one thing to Nintendo fans - tenacity.  It seems at every turn they're adamant the next game is going to be the one to turn around Wii U's fortunes and bring an end to this battle of the cripples.  Sadly literally everything cited has let them down, and the gap just doesn't seem to be shrinking at all.

 

I'd weigh in with my own thoughts. but reading through all these old threads has made me realise that that's really not a good idea :p

My only real thoughts are that whichever wins, it's going to be an incredibly hollow victory.  The least worst selling 8th gen console, gee.

 

And here's a final thought for you: in 2013, this guy predicted that Vita would outsell Wii U in LTD sales.  At the very least, that has a chance of coming true.  But you wouldn't have thought it given the ripping he got for saying that.


OMG, that thread is gold! First two posts are absolutely hilarious. Hahahahaha.

"It skipped over one very important thing.
The PSVita doesn't have Nintendo First Party games.


LOOL

/Thread"

 

Gotta love people's faith in their system.



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naruball said:
Kresnik said:

Goodness, it's been a while since I've seen a topic about this excellent battle!

I remember back in the day all the praise Wii U used to get and all the flak Vita got.  Things like WiiU selling under 7m in 2013 was met with ridicule.  Then we had all sorts of "When will Wii U outsell Vita?" threads like this one and this one.  Check through for some humorous replies.  I sadly can't find my favourite thread (although I'm sure people will remember it) where the general consensus seemed to be that Wii U would sell 3 x more than Vita in 2013.

The threads even resurfaced last year in the race to 10m.

I have to give one thing to Nintendo fans - tenacity.  It seems at every turn they're adamant the next game is going to be the one to turn around Wii U's fortunes and bring an end to this battle of the cripples.  Sadly literally everything cited has let them down, and the gap just doesn't seem to be shrinking at all.

 

I'd weigh in with my own thoughts. but reading through all these old threads has made me realise that that's really not a good idea :p

My only real thoughts are that whichever wins, it's going to be an incredibly hollow victory.  The least worst selling 8th gen console, gee.

 

And here's a final thought for you: in 2013, this guy predicted that Vita would outsell Wii U in LTD sales.  At the very least, that has a chance of coming true.  But you wouldn't have thought it given the ripping he got for saying that.


OMG, that thread is gold! First two posts are absolutely hilarious. Hahahahaha.

"It skipped over one very important thing.
The PSVita doesn't have Nintendo First Party games.


LOOL

/Thread"

 

Gotta love people's faith in their system.


Comedy gold courtesy of VGChartz. 



Dr.Vita said:
Scisca said:
You guys must be crazy. I'm sorry, but I just can't believe what I'm seeing here!

Vita has got a massive (when we're talking about these two bomba consoles) lead and Wii U is about to be killed and all support from Nintendo is to be dropped. The difference is almost a quarter of lifetime Wii U sales!! A quarter!!

There is no way in hell Wii U outsells Vita. The very day that Nintendo announces the next console, Wii U stops selling. Vita won't be replaced in years (if ever) and it still has many games from big franchises coming. Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, the new Minecraft, Ys, Digimon, VLR3, etc. These games will move consoles in Japan and we are about to get a bunch of new announcements on TGS. You guys are underestimating Vita so badly, you should be ashamed of yourself.

On the other hand Wii U is only getting crappy Amiibo grames, Pokken, SMTxFE and its swan song in Zelda U, which will be a multiplat either way. That's a recipe for outselling Vita? Right. Get real people.


This!!! 
People always say that Vita has bad support though it has a much better support than Wii U. 
Playstation Vita is getting Dragon Quest: Builders, Dragon Quest: Heroes 2, Legend of Heroes 1+2, Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, Digimon World: Next Order, God Eater: Resurrection, Ys 8, Zero Escape 3, World of Final Fantasy and so much more big games... 
Wii U is not even getting a quarter of these great games!

That's terrible support. Those are great games now? Or big? Zelda U will outsell all those games combined on the Vita. How's that for big? Most of those games you mentioned will also be on PS4.

Wii U doesn't have great support either (Nintendo fans aren't in denial over it), but in 5 years from now no one will be talking about the great Vita gems except a very small minority that really digs obscure Japanese games.

Port Super Mario Maker (or make a sequel) to the NX and it will probably outsell the Vita by itself (assuming it's a fusion console).

Look at the million sellers of the Vita library and it's quite clear that the console lacks any must have games and it will never get it either.

As for which one will outsell the other, does it matter? They're both jokes when it comes to sales. Selling more doesn't make one console better than the other anyway. I'll gladly take the GC library over the Wii one...

Wii U is getting Xenoblade Chronicles X, SMT x FE, Pokken Tournament and Zelda U. I'm (hopefully) getting a PS4 next year, so I can safely say I'm not interested in a single Vita game. So that's 4 Wii U games I'll be getting and zero Vita ones.



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I thought I'd drop by with an observation I've made as of late.

The Wii U (in America, at least) is normally bundled with two games when sold.

I'm thinking Wii U would be down year-on-year from last year's roughly 2.5 million shipment in Q4, mainly because of America finally giving out, but the minimum figure for Q4 I'd say is 2 million units.
Either way, even if Wii U exceeds my expectations and breaches last year's sales, I honestly doubt it would be enough to close the gap with Vita...


...then again, why is Vita doing so well in RoW?



 
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Samus Aran said:

That's terrible support. Those are great games now? Or big? Zelda U will outsell all those games combined on the Vita. How's that for big? Most of those games you mentioned will also be on PS4.

Wii U doesn't have great support either (Nintendo fans aren't in denial over it), but in 5 years from now no one will be talking about the great Vita gems except a very small minority that really digs obscure Japanese games.

Port Super Mario Maker (or make a sequel) to the NX and it will probably outsell the Vita by itself (assuming it's a fusion console).

Look at the million sellers of the Vita library and it's quite clear that the console lacks any must have games and it will never get it either.

As for which one will outsell the other, does it matter? They're both jokes when it comes to sales. Selling more doesn't make one console better than the other anyway. I'll gladly take the GC library over the Wii one...

Wii U is getting Xenoblade Chronicles X, SMT x FE, Pokken Tournament and Zelda U. I'm (hopefully) getting a PS4 next year, so I can safely say I'm not interested in a single Vita game. So that's 4 Wii U games I'll be getting and zero Vita ones.

Too bad Zelda will to nothing as far as selling a substantial amount of Wii U's, it'll just sell to the existing userbase. Besides that's just one game, it may be a big game but saying that the Vita has terrible support  even though it get's 10x the games the Wii U does is foolish.

Also I plan on getting Persona 4 Dancing all Night, Corpse Party Blood Drive, Sword Art Online: Lost Song, Legend of Heroes: Trials of Cold Steel, Digimon Cyber Sleuth, World of Final Fantasy, Zero Escape 3, and Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir. And as of right now I have no plans to buy another Wii U game unless they show more SMTxFE gameplay.

So that's 8 Vita games I'll be getting and zero Wii U ones.



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BlowoverKing said:
Samus Aran said:

That's terrible support. Those are great games now? Or big? Zelda U will outsell all those games combined on the Vita. How's that for big? Most of those games you mentioned will also be on PS4.

Wii U doesn't have great support either (Nintendo fans aren't in denial over it), but in 5 years from now no one will be talking about the great Vita gems except a very small minority that really digs obscure Japanese games.

Port Super Mario Maker (or make a sequel) to the NX and it will probably outsell the Vita by itself (assuming it's a fusion console).

Look at the million sellers of the Vita library and it's quite clear that the console lacks any must have games and it will never get it either.

As for which one will outsell the other, does it matter? They're both jokes when it comes to sales. Selling more doesn't make one console better than the other anyway. I'll gladly take the GC library over the Wii one...

Wii U is getting Xenoblade Chronicles X, SMT x FE, Pokken Tournament and Zelda U. I'm (hopefully) getting a PS4 next year, so I can safely say I'm not interested in a single Vita game. So that's 4 Wii U games I'll be getting and zero Vita ones.

Too bad Zelda will to nothing as far as selling a substantial amount of Wii U's, it'll just sell to the existing userbase. Besides that's just one game, it may be a big game but saying that the Vita has terrible support  even though it get's 10x the games the Wii U does is foolish.

Also I plan on getting Persona 4 Dancing all Night, Corpse Party Blood Drive, Sword Art Online: Lost Song, Legend of Heroes: Trials of Cold Steel, Digimon Cyber Sleuth, World of Final Fantasy, Zero Escape 3, and Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir. And as of right now I have no plans to buy another Wii U game unless they show more SMTxFE gameplay.

So that's 8 Vita games I'll be getting and zero Wii U ones.

Good for you, Zelda will still outsell all those games combined and it fully deserves too.

My post isn't argueing which console will outsell the other because they both sell like trash anyway. I'm saying that just because one console outsells the other it doesn't mean it's better, which is what some people here seem to think (the same people who will argue that the Vita has a better library than the 3DS mind you).

I'm also 100% sure that if some Wii U exclusives were Vita exclusives instead they'd be on your list now. Lol.



No, here's why:

(1) compelling system selling software - tie, no console is having must have software coming up. While there may be a case for Nintendo's upcoming games to sell well, that does not detract from the fact that they cater to the Nintendo fanbase which already bought the wii u.

(2) successor - vita. Nintendo wants to move on. It's as plain as day to see, and with the new president also expressing his reluctance with the wii u, it seems all the more likely that Nintendo will rush out their next home console killing the wii u earlier. Sony on the other hand is showing no signs of a vita successor and may actually be reluctant to do so when weighing the risk of going against mobile phones/tablets.

(3) power (reletaive towards domain)- vita. The ps4 and xbone started off with great starts, but only recently are they becoming more commonplace with upcoming games showcasing power that is exclusive to next gen. Since the wii u does not have that kind of power, it will often be eliminated as a consideration for next gen. The vita, on the other hand, has plenty of room to grow compared to the 3ds.

(4) marketing - wii u. Power is not everything. Marketing is a huge. When it comes to selling consoles, a huge factor is what people think of when they hear "vita" or "wii u". In this case, people consider both as irrelevant. However, when it comes to ads and marketting, the wii u has the vita beat. I have yet to see a vita commercial, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't just see an enticing wii u comercial (super mario maker)

(5) Price - tie. While the wii u is the cheapest option for home consoles, it is not too much cheaper than the xbone to actually set itself apart in a good fashion. AKA people are often left with the choice of pay $300 for a console most similar to last gen and low support, or pay $350 for a console with superior specs and fantastic 3rd party support. Likewise, while the vita does offer more power than the 3ds, it does still have a price tag that is way above people's comfort zone.

(5) regions - vita. While the wii u has the advantage in the US, vita has the advantage in Europe, where sony is king, and Japan, where handhelds are king.

In the end, the vita may have issues, but the wii u has just as much, if not more, leaving the vita in a position where it can comfortably maintain its lead



midrange said:
No, here's why:

(1) compelling system selling software - tie, no console is having must have software coming up. While there may be a case for Nintendo's upcoming games to sell well, that does not detract from the fact that they cater to the Nintendo fanbase which already bought the wii u.

(2) successor - vita. Nintendo wants to move on. It's as plain as day to see, and with the new president also expressing his reluctance with the wii u, it seems all the more likely that Nintendo will rush out their next home console killing the wii u earlier. Sony on the other hand is showing no signs of a vita successor and may actually be reluctant to do so when weighing the risk of going against mobile phones/tablets.

(3) power (reletaive towards domain)- vita. The ps4 and xbone started off with great starts, but only recently are they becoming more commonplace with upcoming games showcasing power that is exclusive to next gen. Since the wii u does not have that kind of power, it will often be eliminated as a consideration for next gen. The vita, on the other hand, has plenty of room to grow compared to the 3ds.



In the end, the vita may have issues, but the wii u has just as much, if not more, leaving the vita in a position where it can comfortably maintain its lead

(1) Dont agree, Super Mario Maker that was out few days ago is must have software for platform lovers, Xenoblade X for JRPG lovers,Pokken Fighters is also must have, I dont need to mention Zelda U, we can say that Star Fox Zero is must have for Star Fox fans and Fatal Frame V for Fatal Frame and horor fans and it very likely we will get another Wii U game, maybe Pikmin 4.. All this games are exclusives (except maybe Zelda U), on other hand Vita is having 3rd party support mainly in Japan only and even those games are mainly multiplatform.

(3) Power isn't problem, if power is a problem Vita wouldn't sell 5x worse than 3DS.

(2) Agree, and I think that will be main reason why Vita will sell better than Wii U, but I dont think Nintendo will rush out new console, fact is that Nintendo home console have life span around 5 years, PSP for instance is discontinued last year around 10 years on market, Vita will be probably be last Sony handheld and Sony will certainly not will not rush to discontinued it.