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That new controller looks like shit. They could have at least had a dpad.  At least it doesn't have that stupid bubble at the end of the remote like Playstation Move.



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sethnintendo said:

That new controller looks like shit. They could have at least had a dpad.  At least it doesn't have that stupid bubble at the end of the remote like Sony's motion controller.


The "stupid bubble" on Sony's Move controller lets it track depth of the controller, something the Wiimote can't do (not even with WM+). For example in Zelda if you thrust your Wiimote away from you like a sword and then pull it back towards your chest, the Wii doesn't recoginize any of that, the Move can. It's actually the best motion controller. 



Soundwave said:
sethnintendo said:

That new controller looks like shit. They could have at least had a dpad.  At least it doesn't have that stupid bubble at the end of the remote like Sony's motion controller.


The "stupid bubble" on Sony's Move controller lets it track depth of the controller, something the Wiimote can't do (not even with WM+). For example in Zelda if you thrust your Wiimote away from you like a sword and then pull it back towards your chest, the Wii doesn't recoginize any of that, the Move can. It's actually the best motion controller. 


Still looks stupid.  Looks like an anal bead dildo.  Plus it never really took off that much (sold over 15 million but that isn't much considering PS3 userbase).  If they found a way to inclose it into the controller like Nintendo did with the motion plus accessory then I wouldn't rag on it.



I'm a big Apple fan. No, it will not. Motion controls are dead.



Apple TV will more than likely outsell the PS4, and by quite a margin. Apple users don't have stupid policies on how they use their tech. They are not going to say, this is a set top box, so it should only do this. Instead they will utilize the box for gaming, and everything else people traditionally use PC, Cable Boxes, Set Top Boxes, Tablets, and Consoles for. Due to the amount of usage, and the amount of money spent on the app store, devs will flock to it with support just like iPhone.

I fully expect gamers to kill off real gaming devices with their narrow view of what the device should do. If gamers don't start using Xbox and PlayStation for Live TV, Web Browsing, Paying Bills, Buying Digital Movies and TV, Video Editing, E-Mail, Health tracking, etc., then this market will be handed to Apple and Google ecosystems, and games will be an afterthought. Hopefully, gamers wake up and give Google and Apple the middle finger before its to late, otherwise gaming is going to get pretty sad in the next five years.



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From NeoGaf

Apple TV estimated shipments - ZhugeEX
2007- 0.3 million
2008- 0.3 million
2009- 0.7 million
2010- 1.6 million (REV2)
2011- 2.8 million
2012- 6.5 million (REV3)
2013- 7.0 million
2014- 6.0 million

 

This is the old Apple TV model, but you can see from 2012 onwards it's far outselling the Wii U and selling about on par with the XBox One. If the new model revision causes a fairly decent bump, it could challenge the XBox One for the no.2 spot at least for most hardware moved this generation. 

NX I really don't know about, it could bomb just like the Wii U did, Nintendo has a (terrible) habit of fixing some old mistakes only to then make completely new ones or to take years in fixing a mistake to the point where it doesn't matter any longer. 

Sony is going to cruise to no.1 though, I don't think there's much doubt about that. 



It will definitely take a bite of the casual gaming demographic of the industry but I doubt it will offer any sort of competition for the ps4's demographic.

I think apple are aiming to conquer the micro console/media device market with the apple tv not the hardcode console market.



CleggaZ said:
It will definitely take a bite of the casual gaming demographic of the industry but I doubt it will offer any sort of competition for the ps4's demographic.

I think apple are aiming to conquer the micro console/media device market with the apple tv not the hardcode console market.


Sony doesn't really have much to be worried about. 

MS and Nintendo, it probably stings a bit more because MS really wanted that whole "ONE stop for the living room is XBox and Windows!" and Nintendo has basically lost all their casuals and large chunk of their kids audience to Apple. 



Soundwave said:

From NeoGaf

Apple TV estimated shipments - ZhugeEX
2007- 0.3 million
2008- 0.3 million
2009- 0.7 million
2010- 1.6 million (REV2)
2011- 2.8 million
2012- 6.5 million (REV3)
2013- 7.0 million
2014- 6.0 million

 

This is the old Apple TV model, but you can see from 2012 onwards it's far outselling the Wii U and selling about on par with the XBox One. If the new model revision causes a fairly decent bump, it could challenge the XBox One for the no.2 spot at least for most hardware moved this generation. 

NX I really don't know about, it could bomb just like the Wii U did, Nintendo has a (terrible) habit of fixing some old mistakes only to then make completely new ones or to take years in fixing a mistake to the point where it doesn't matter any longer. 

Sony is going to cruise to no.1 though, I don't think there's much doubt about that. 


What was the max price they were selling it for? $100?  They introduced the first generation for $70 and now the third generation is set at $70 since announcement.  You guys are comparing sales of a Roku player to a $250-300 video game system.



Not at all wii u will make a comeback!