The Cell was a ridiculous idea from the beginning, its only legacy being a black hole where the PS1 and PS2 profits used to live.
I kind of agree with him.
The CELL was a really powerful processors, but way too complicated to use. I believe that if Sony chose a more common technology, such as the X360, we could have seen more advancements.
On the other hand, even if it was a misstep, it helped Sony in understanding their 'failure'.
SonicAway said:
A good example would be the word "sinistro": we use it as "cool!" but we usually know it actually means "freaky"/"spooky" or even "left handed"... I can't say I'd first jump to the meaning the speaker intended, but the context should help in situations like this, as in your example, in understanding what you mean by saying Niger. Unless people really don't know the longest river in the world (or even the country). XD |
The same goes for Spanish. You can technically say "to delay" by saying something like "to retard". Retarded = retrasado, to delay = to "retrasar".
Romance languages indeed.
Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1
"The combined materials and manufacturing costs for each device come to about $806 for the model with a 20GB hard drive, excluding the cost of the controller, cables, and packaging, iSuppli said.
With a suggested retail price of $499, that would mean Sony is taking a loss of about $307 on each console it sells. The differential for the 60GB model is less, with the cost exceeding the price tag by $241."
"By comparison, the materials and manufacturing costs for the hard-drive version of Microsoft's rival device, the Xbox 360 are $323, iSuppli estimated. That's less than the suggested retail price of $399."
"Most of the cost comes from the PlayStation 3 console's processing power. The multicore Cell processor alone, which was co-designed by Sony, Toshiba, and IBM, and is the gaming device's main processing engine, accounts for about 10 percent of the cost of each machine, iSuppli said.
The research company also highlighted Sony's use of dual graphics chips from Nvidia and Toshiba, and its use of four 512-megabit DRAM chips from Samsung Electronics. Sony's motherboard probably costs the company $500 in total, compared to $204 for the Xbox 360, iSuppli said. This is all good news for customers, who get all that computing power for a relative bargain. iSuppli called the PlayStation 3 an "engineering masterpiece," with a motherboard that looks more like that of an enterprise server or network switch than a games console. The console provides "more processing power and capability than any consumer electronics device in history," iSuppli said."
Its amazing how people love to shit on Sony, but when the Ps3 was released, they sold a +800$ cutting edge console for 200$ less. Not to mention the BluRay, Bluetooth, etc. When they are the "broke" company according to almost everyone.
Lets see if Nintendo or Microsoft, which are bathing on 100$ bills do this.
AEGRO said:
"By comparison, the materials and manufacturing costs for the hard-drive version of Microsoft's rival device, the Xbox 360 are $323, iSuppli estimated. That's less than the suggested retail price of $399."
"Most of the cost comes from the PlayStation 3 console's processing power. The multicore Cell processor alone, which was co-designed by Sony, Toshiba, and IBM, and is the gaming device's main processing engine, accounts for about 10 percent of the cost of each machine, iSuppli said. The research company also highlighted Sony's use of dual graphics chips from Nvidia and Toshiba, and its use of four 512-megabit DRAM chips from Samsung Electronics. Sony's motherboard probably costs the company $500 in total, compared to $204 for the Xbox 360, iSuppli said. This is all good news for customers, who get all that computing power for a relative bargain. iSuppli called the PlayStation 3 an "engineering masterpiece," with a motherboard that looks more like that of an enterprise server or network switch than a games console. The console provides "more processing power and capability than any consumer electronics device in history," iSuppli said." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Its amazing how people love to shit on Sony, but when the Ps3 was released, they sold a +800$ cutting edge console for 200$ less. Not to mention the BluRay, Bluetooth, etc. When they are the "broke" company according to almost everyone. Lets see if Nintendo or Microsoft, which are bathing on 100$ bills do this. |
Hindsight is 20/20, they say. Sony took the hit on the hardware which they expected to make up in software after another generation of PlayStation dominance--not because they just loved the gamer so much. It cost them tons and tons of money. Some would say, financially, the PS3 was a disaster.
As for taking a hit, Microsoft took a $100 loss on every Xbox (2001). It was to establish the Xbox brand, not because they wanted to give us the gift of happiness.
That article from '06 was great. I'm sure Sony thought they were making great decisions but I'm willing to bet they feel differently, now. They gave us a box that did "everything" but by the end of the gen, that box did significantly less. Did they stop caring about gamers out did they decide "Hey, we need to cut out some unnecessary stuff to try and make some money!"
Great console for us gamers, I admit. Not exactly a winner for Sony. Luckily, they aren't making the same mistakes for the PS4. M$ is.
ArchangelMadzz said:
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Ok.
| FunFan said: What does it matter if Dice had problems with Battlefield 4 on the PS4. He's not talking about the PS4, he's talking about the PS3 and Dice work on the PS3 is nothing short of masterful. Dice made amazing versions of Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3 for the PS3 and this guy worked on both games as a Technical Director, not a janitor. These are games with incredible destructive environments and extremely advanced physics. You know? The kind of stuff that actually taxes the CPU. Even the bullets are affected by gravity. That the PS3 versions closely resembles the PC is amazing. Dice might be struggling with the current hardware but on the PS3 it was among the greatest. Not even Naughty Dog achieved such level of excellence in physics and destructible environments. This is not a studio that failed to deliver, and is using the Cell processor as a scapegoat. This is someone who mastered the Cell processor and is saying things as they are. His struggle on a platform that, in terms of architecture, has nothing to do with the platform his basing his claim of, is meaningless. That's like questioning the musical ability of one of the best violinist because he/she is struggling with a piano. Fact is that Sony dropped the ball with the Cell processor and many developers suffered. Not every studio was lucky enough to have the development time and resources needed to deal with the technical difficulties. Pitiful. |
I remember Haze. When Sony Girl and I played it, we expected an experience like any other Free Radical games. What we got was something that was a terrible story, and just as bad gameplay.
d21lewis said:
Hindsight is 20/20, they say. Sony took the hit on the hardware which they expected to make up in software after another generation of PlayStation dominance--not because they just loved the gamer so much. It cost them tons and tons of money. Some would say, financially, the PS3 was a disaster.
As for taking a hit, Microsoft took a $100 loss on every Xbox (2001). It was to establish the Xbox brand, not because they wanted to give us the gift of happiness. That article from '06 was great. I'm sure Sony thought they were making great decisions but I'm willing to bet they feel differently, now. They gave us a box that did "everything" but by the end of the gen, that box did significantly less. Did they stop caring about gamers out did they decide "Hey, we need to cut out some unnecessary stuff to try and make some money!"
Great console for us gamers, I admit. Not exactly a winner for Sony. Luckily, they aren't making the same mistakes for the PS4. M$ is. |
I dont own, nor im planning to own Sony stocks.
Im well aware that ALL companies are in the game to make money, but im not going to be that stupid to compain about buying a 800$ device at 600$.
At the end of the day, the Ps3 ended with (imo) the best exclusives of the 7th gen, so as a customer im more than happy.
walsufnir said:
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They could easily release a Remaster of this game and it would be next Gen
Wouldn't the cell's multi-threaded visual effects offloading ability have helped devs to learn and be more ready for GPUs that support GPGPU computing and not to mention the multi core processors that are in the Xbox1 and PS4?
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