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What is your opinion on the Ashley Madison Hack?

Website is at fault 10 3.36%
 
Website and users are at fault 34 11.41%
 
Everyone subject to hacking is a victim 44 14.77%
 
All cheaters should get screwed 75 25.17%
 
Cheating is no big deal, ... 8 2.68%
 
I hope I am not among the names leaked 11 3.69%
 
I keep my Love Pillow awa... 1 0.34%
 
Hackers, cheaters and the... 30 10.07%
 
The people cheated on and... 41 13.76%
 
I don't care. 44 14.77%
 
Total:298
ironmanDX said:
Lawlight said:
ironmanDX said:
Lawlight said:
metroidking said:

Yip thats right


Incorrect. If someone commits suicide because he is being blackmailed, the blackmailer doesn't have blood on their hands?


Blackmailing? A bit of a stretch. The information leaked is the information they themselves put on the website. It's already cheating so, clearly risks of being caught are already there...

Are they blackmailing themselves?


No. Some people are using the hack data to blackmail others.


How? It's up there for everyone to see... It's been all over the news.

I suppose if your stupid enough to put your real name, picture, work email, pics, etc on a website of this nature you're stupid enough to be blackmailed.


No, it's not up there for everyone to see. Unless, you're actually looking for the data, you won't see it so that's how.



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padib said:
Cheating is stupid and the users are at fault. Hackers are never at fault, they simply expose a technological weakness and make the penalty as severe as they can. I don't agree that the hackers should be punished at all for this. Site is at fault for offering such an immoral service and associating names to accounts.

I say this as a proud Canadian.


Tell that to all the PSN/Live users - that hackers are never at fault.



Lawlight said:
ironmanDX said:
Lawlight said:


No. Some people are using the hack data to blackmail others.


How? It's up there for everyone to see... It's been all over the news.

I suppose if your stupid enough to put your real name, picture, work email, pics, etc on a website of this nature you're stupid enough to be blackmailed.


No, it's not up there for everyone to see. Unless, you're actually looking for the data, you won't see it so that's how.

The hackers have clearly done the wrong thing and leaked personal info. The site members are at fault too though. It is there for everyone to see... No kidding you have to search for it... A moot point, really. Not sure how it puts anyone in a better light.



padib said:
generic-user-1 said:


ohh the irony mr snow...

Call me Lord Snow. ;) 


you mean targaryen?



When it comes to Ashley Madison's responsibility, I would like to add that the website had a special service for $19 that promised to erase the accounts from existence off the website, but now people found that that wasn't the case, even if you paid for it:

ALM offered a paid option in which people who created a profile could have their account scrubbed from the Tinder-for-adulterers website if they coughed up $19. When the massive data dump of Ashley Madison lust-hunters surfaced, it was found that while information was indeed removed when accounts were deleted, some details remained in the site's databases – and were splashed all over the web by miscreants.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/25/us_class_action_ashley_madison/



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

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I think the whole thing is hilarous. It was just a matter of time before something like this happened to such a website.



padib said:
generic-user-1 said:


you mean targaryen?

Kind of but not really. (Hint: I wear it as a badge, as Tyrion suggested to Jon)


it looks like you know nothing jon snow...



97alexk said:

I find it disgusting and cheating is probably one of the worst things a person could do. im fortunate enough to never have experienced that, but for obvious reasons xD

Really? The worst huh?

 

Worse than murder, terrorism, armed robbery, rape. 

 

Cheating sure is bad. 

 

Op: cheating is not the worst one can do. It's dishonest and selfish, but there are worse things. 

 

However it's still morally wrong. Do I feel bad for those hacked? In between. 

 

You always have the chance of this online and they chose that risk. 



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padib said:
Soundwave said:


So what about the wife who's worked through issues of infidelity with her husband, and he signed up for this site like 10 years ago, and now the wife and her kids have to suffer because this information is made public for everyone to see?

Did the hackers consider her feelings? Her kids? 

What about the guy/girl who signed up to this but never followed through? Do they deserve to have their public reputation ruined? 

Did the hackers consider that?

No, the hacker(s) likely are a bunch of wusses who couldn't keep their girlfriend from blowing some other dude because she was unhappy with Mr. Hacker being a wuss, so he got bitter and decided to target this website. 

Usually the people who are the most bitter about cheating are the ones (naturally) who have been cheated on themselves. I doubt these hackers considered people commiting suicide over this too, they were thinking about their own personal hurt most likely. 

But just because your relationship turned out shitty doesn't mean you have the right to turn the lives of thousands of families upside down to appease your vendetta of getting back at cheaters. Find a different girl and become a better fucking man, so she won't want to cheat on you and don't settle until you get someone who's worth what you bring to the table. 

To be honest I don't care. Everybody has issues and pointing the finger is the least helpful of all things no matter the direction.

 

People struggle with a lot of things though, including murder and pedophilia, hence the legal system. For some reason though I get the feeling you're going to justify this on the grounds of "they are struggling" but point the finger if it's something you are morally against and then it just becomes a question of one man's code over another and that is pointless since we all have our value systems and none fully agree. In that case " they were strugglin" can apply to absolutely anything, and I'm okay with that so long as it is applied to everything. As for hackers, the best way to look it them is as an uncontrollable force of nature because so long as computers exist, hacking will be real.


We're just going to have to agree to disagree if you think infidelity is on par with murder and pedophilia, because there's no arguement you can make that will logically work for me on that. 

If you're really shocked to find out your significant other was on a website like this too, IMO you were lying to yourself most likely for a long time to begin with anyway. 

We know human beings like to fuck. I'm just putting that bluntly because it's hardwired into our DNA, to deny that is to be naive, we wouldn't exist if we didn't have an overwhelming urge to want to do so. I'm not saying that's a good thing per se, but it is a survival mechanism. So I don't really believe in all the "shaming" that comes with it. 

No it's not a great thing to do, but neither is eating yourself to obesity or indulging in too much drinking, yet we're not surprised that some people like to eat a lot or drink a lot, sex is far more pleasurable than either of those things, why is it such a shock to some people that some people have trouble controlling how much sex they have? It doesn't surprise me, and I don't neccessarily think it's the end of the world. 

In terms of these hackers, I don't think they have the right to put their pain of likely being cheated on themselves and intrude on so many people's lives like this. If your girlfriend wasn't faithful, I'm sorry, but that doesn't give you the right to cause a broad spectrum of people pain, including people who never followed through on anything or family members who don't want this information public. 



padib said:
Lawlight said:


Tell that to all the PSN/Live users - that hackers are never at fault.


Sony fixed PSN after the attacks right? So that means that a more secure network could have existed before the attacks right?

 

So the PSN hack was Sony's fault and unfortunately people were overcharged for being on an unsafe network.

 

People still had to be out of online features for 3 weeks and had their details stolen. No way you can spin hackers wno harm regular people as faultless.